They like the big brother. Didn't you know that? They protect. They just protec yo.

Jesus christ.

I could tear this post apart, but there's no way to do it without feeling like I'd just beaten up an autistic kid.

I feel like reading his post would be a daily occurrence for a 3rd grade English teacher reading essays. I couldn't do that all day. I'd go insane.

Bro if he posted more he'd be as beloved as mindfulness.

To anyone:

Why would you be against Calexit if Hong Kong doesn’t need China?

Why don’t more of you promote the fragmentation of America?

What about NYC? Does NYC need America?

If America lost NYC in the Opium Wars and an agreement was made for its return...

I’m for the fragmentation and dissolution of the United States but if we’re so willing to ignore the link in heritage and culture between Beijing and Hong Kong why the **** don’t we get on with tearing our own monster down?

Ftr, I’ve been to Hong Kong and China. I don’t agree with Clown but it’s not like what he’s saying is completely left field. The relationship isn’t only adversarial.

More importantly though, there’s no value in what the demonstrators want to protect. They’re one of the most money hoarding billionaire friendly planet trashing capitalist earth killer cities on the planet. In terms of raping South America and Africa, Hong Kong and Beijing are blood brothers. If Hong Kong were attacked 9/11 style Beijing would **** up whoever did it.

I'm down as long as I still get to travel to other states when the dust settles.

The south would become so third world lol.

I'm down. A country of 300 million people on a landmass the size of a continent is stupid and unmanageable. On that note, China should break up too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guo_Wengui

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Hanging with Steve Bannon

Here’s a billionaire scumbag living like a king in America because the Chinese were going to toast his crooked ass.

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Hong Kong Protestor
American Flag and MAGA Hat

Yeah, it's funny how as soon as the authoritarian government doesn't like someone, they magically and instantaneously find evidence of a million "unpatriotic" crimes.

He's probably a scumbag anyway, since, you know, billionaire, but come on Hawk. The Chinese government is on the extreme spectrum of the kinda **** that you claim to hate.

America is worse than China. I’m not talking just domestic human rights. I mean the entire creature. Military, foreign policy, politics of devastation.

My understanding of the Hong Kong protestors is that they in general want an American style democracy. Can’t get with that.

Feel like we've already gone over this before.

You start pretending that you know about China 'cause you spent a week down in Hong Kong twenty years ago banging hookers or whatever. I drop a bunch of sources showing how horribly corrupt and unregulated **** is on the mainland, how China has become much more capitalistic than America, and how the government is almost objectively worse than the US on pretty much every level, to the point where they're actively an extreme example of how a capitalist society can go completely off the wire. You back off without even admitting that you were wrong. And then a couple weeks later, it's the same **** all over again.

You don't think that choice should be more up to them to make than you? How very authoritarian of you.

You just want America to be worse because you're emotionally tied to your suffering being the most important thing in the world. Quit being a bitch.

America has 5 holocausts under its young belt.

Slavery
Native Genocide
Mexican War
Bikini Atoll
Vietnam Cambodia Laos

America has the highest prison population and prisons that are horrifying and savage by any standard

America’s worst neighborhoods are far more dangerous than anywhere in China

America has the largest nuclear arsenal by far

America has is constantly at war. Endless war is a cornerstone of our foreign policy.

American habits have devastated south and Central America with our endless demand for cocaine, palm oil, and beef.

Africans whose ancestors profited off the slave trade still oppress families that were devastated by kidnapping.

America has singlehandedly caused irreversible damage through green house emmisions

America has the most billionaires which is the direct cause of constant slow moving holocausts like starvation in India, Indonesia and so on and high child mortality rates around the world through malnutrition and dysentery.

America has aggressively made it impossible through intervention for Marxist visions to be realized. In fact, if America wasn’t so obsessed with crushing communism Maoism wouldn’t have been so insanely dogmatic. Same with Stalinism.

America probably has played a greater role in the oppression of the Chinese than the Chinese government. Same with Russia, Cuba and many others.

It’s not even remotely close that America is the greatest menace on the planet and a horrible role model.

The demonstrators in Hong Kong need a genuine vision. From the bottom of my heart I say **** American democracy.

Hong Kong can't be independent of China because they're going to kill a bunch of Native Americans and go to war with Mexico.

We're obviously the fourth reich but come on now.

Unless the demonstrators disavow any solidarity with America I’m not interested in their cause. If they want to be in a friendly relationship with our government as it stands now I oppose their effort.

So you support enforced solidarity with America II because of Hong Kong's solidarity with America, got it.

And yet I would rather live in America and so would you, you stupid, stupid ****.

Hundreds of millions of Chinese have better lives than me.

So no. I’d rather live in Shanghai, for sure.

Okay, so, would you rather be an American citizen in Washington DC and shout at the top of your lungs "**** Donald Trump!" or would you rather be a Chinese citizen in Beijing and shout at the top of your lungs "**** Xi Jinping!"?

You wouldn't be able to use Spotify.

We've been over this, Hawk.

I could post about the mass extermination of native cultures (and not just by Emperor Qin Shi Huangdi), the constant bloody wars (the White Lotus Rebellion alone killed almost as many people as the total sum of combatants slain in World War Two), the culture of extreme poverty and cannibalism (during the extremely brutal Three Kingdoms Period for example, which ended in the death of roughly a third of the total population of the nation, people literally had to eat each other to survive), the hilariously vile efforts of the government to suck every possible resource out of the earth, the mass slavery and violations of human rights (to this day, the government forces people to work on public projects under fear of death. There's a reason why the Great Wall is still considered to be the world's largest graveyard)...

But you would rather Chula it up with your anecdotes.

The USA is still the new kid on the block. China has been ****ing each other over since before humans even had a system of writing to record how ****ed up everything was. You're comparing a slimy young businessman to a ****ing ancientass Heihachi that absolutely crushes anyone that doesn't fall in line. If America is ****ed up, it's 'cause we learned from the best.

I studied Chinese history in college, too.

Dude, stop.

American capitalism is an existential threat to humanity. The Hong Kong protestors have no vision. I never admitted I was wrong because I’m right.

Isn't Hong Kong already wealthier and more free than most of China? Why would they want to join them.

He's in the Laogai making Christmas lights right now.

Cool. Then you should know better.

Stop ****ting on your anecdotes with facts? No, I don't think I will.

I've already demonstrated time and again how Chinese capitalism is even more corrupt and unregulated.

They just want to be able to make their own decisions. They can work the rest out later.

Did you have a straight face when you typed that, Chules?

Seriously though Hawk, I'd expect you of all people to respect the position of Hong Kong, what with your "my home is my castle" rhetoric. They just want everyone to back the **** off for a minute so they can work **** out for themselves.

At times OH comes across as someone with all the irrationality and dogma of dyed in the wool ideologue but without the internal consistency or coherence that an actual ideology provides.

They’re capitalist so **** them.

"I don't believe in the idea of private ownership of property."

*five minutes later*

"Anybody who touches my **** gon die."

Why are you so gung ho about Hong Kong being controlled by a larger capitalist entity?

Cause he's a toddler on a tantrum who had every opportunity to live someplace other than America but still came back.

I don’t necessarily support China either. I just don’t think it’s so good guy bad guy

I probably could voice it more softly

I’ll admit (and this is to you too Bat) that my rhetoric is amped up recently because I’m supremely frustrated financially and professionally

I really don’t believe that China is worse than America though

I just don’t.

Ori - I’m not like a Sinologist or anything but I do know enough to have an opinion - I know you disagree but I’m satisfied that I laid a pretty damning case against America. The middle class in China live decent lives. The poor are ****ed. Sounds familiar.

I'm avoiding the China vs America debate cause it's an obvious distraction

But if you are against people protesting that they don't want to be forced to come under the heel of the Chinese govt, you are in effect supporting China.

That’s a valid point. I overstated my case because I’m crazy.

Yeah we know.

You are too

Most geniuses are. (probably said by a crazy person to feel better about being crazy, I don't think there is any proof)

I think there is some correlation between high IQ and mental illness

Isn’t there?

I know my IQ btw. They tested me in high school because I was crazy and then again after college and got the same score. I’m not a genius. My IQ is 112. Two psychologists thought I was “gifted” but nope. I think 85-115 is the average zone. I think they’re culturally biased in favor of eggshell social constructs.