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The Batlord
11-21-2020 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Anteater
(Post 2145549)
That's a whole lot os strawmanning in one paragraph. I don't worship the free market or entrepreneurs.
I didn't call you a libertarian but you definitely think entrepreneurs are the great men who will give us top down salvation.
Anteater
11-21-2020 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBig3
(Post 2145550)
Edited for decency: Any ideology you support?
None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?
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Originally Posted by The Batlord
(Post 2145551)
I didn't call you a libertarian but you definitely think entrepreneurs are the great men who will give us top down salvation.
The people you lump together as "entrepreneurs" are literally just a means to an end. The birth of an AI that will render governments and society as a whole pretty moot is an inevitability. That genie is going to pop out of the bottle like someone dropped a Mentos in that **** and nobody is going to know what to do about it.
The Batlord
11-21-2020 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Anteater
(Post 2145553)
None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?
The people you lump together as "entrepreneurs" are literally just a means to an end. The birth of an AI that will render governments and society as a whole pretty moot is an inevitability. That genie is going to pop out of the bottle like someone dropped a Mentos in that **** and nobody is going to know what to do about it.
"I don't have any ideology." - ****ing liar
OccultHawk
11-21-2020 09:35 PM
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singularity
Have we talked about Kurzweil?
Anteater
11-21-2020 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
(Post 2145557)
Have we talked about Kurzweil?
I think we had a brief forum exchange about him before. Feels like a long time ago though.
TheBig3
11-21-2020 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Anteater
(Post 2145553)
None. Ideology isn't going to mean much once we get past the singularity, so why commit?
What do you do for work? And have you ever had to fix the copier?
Anteater
11-21-2020 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBig3
(Post 2145560)
And have you ever had to fix the copier?
Yep.
OccultHawk
11-21-2020 10:15 PM
I think mankind should try to apply Asimov’s laws to AI starting now. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Anteater
11-21-2020 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
(Post 2145569)
I think mankind should try to apply Asimov’s laws to AI starting now. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Yep. They should think about those things now, but they won't. Even the smartest decision makers at the highest levels of government right now can't disseminate basic misinformation they see on Twitter. How will they handle autonomous, intelligent machines that far exceed our own mental capabilities?
The thing that's legitimately scary about today's world is that we live in a time where 99.9% of the population doesn't understand the technology that drives the economy, our supply chains, manufacturing, etc, much less these basic limited AIs that power social media.
So if some AI in some industry crosses the wrong threshold and gains both agency and actual awareness, that would probably spell the end of society within the next few decades. You wouldn't even need to wait for an environmental catastrophe, plus the rich won't know what to do about it either. Buying power can save you from a mob trying to break into your mansion, but it won't save you from something that could theoretically hack any system remotely and cause every airplane to crash around the world simultaneously.
