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Old 09-16-2020, 04:54 PM   #281 (permalink)
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:44 PM   #282 (permalink)
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No, I didn't , though I struggle to relate Frownland´s post to our discussion, or to the US today. That's the bit I was thinking of as cryptic: what is Frownland really telling us?

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Please, please, please let him be right again. I'm still worried about the debates, though.


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To vote or not to vote? oddly enough, I just saw this news item on youtube:-



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Scientific American:- The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:53 PM   #283 (permalink)
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No, I didn't , though I struggle to relate Frownland´s post to our discussion, or to the US today. That's the bit I was thinking of as cryptic: what is Frownland really telling us?
My point is that framing not voting as an endorsement tantamount to voting for Trump is an Orwellian attempt to coerce the public at worst and illogical at best.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:12 PM   #284 (permalink)
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My point is that framing not voting as an endorsement tantamount to voting for Trump is an Orwellian attempt to coerce the public at worst and illogical at best.
Not voting isn't outright support of Trump. But failure to vote against Trump implies you at least find his actions permissible. Why not show up and vote for yourself?
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:32 PM   #285 (permalink)
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Not voting isn't outright support of Trump. But failure to vote against Trump implies you at least find his actions permissible.
That may be behind why you're not voting, but for me, the main issue is that I can't explicitly permit the actions of either candidate.
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:25 AM   #286 (permalink)
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President Trump gets a Spike in Michigan
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:26 AM   #287 (permalink)
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Trump Takes First Lead Nationally by 1 percentage point according to Rasmussen Reports

It can't be the Hisapanic voter that caused this shift, Joe's got 'em locked in.
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That may be behind why you're not voting, but for me, the main issue is that I can't explicitly permit the actions of either candidate.
There are more than 2 options to vote for.
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Voting for anybody but Biden is the same as voting for Trump though and I don't want it to be all my fault again.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:23 AM   #290 (permalink)
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Voting for anybody but Biden is the same as voting for Trump though and I don't want it to be all my fault again.
Ha, well there you have it.

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