2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

I thought you were gung-ho on accelerationism though? If you believe Trump will destroy America if re-elected (and Biden's loss would prove, once again, that a corporate neoliberal can't build a winning coalition against the right/Trumpism), that should pave the way for radical change and for the far-left to start winning the argument with Joe Sixpack.

Right?

I don’t want a far left America. I want there to be no longer such a thing as America. America will never be reformed. It cannot be saved. It’s inherently bad. It was founded on evil. America isn’t a house infested with termites. It’s just a mound of termites if you get what I’m saying.

[Frownland]

Belarus is a trial balloon for our election.

I saw the insane brainwashed fanaticism of Trump supporters harassing protestors firsthand yesterday. This is going to be a civil war. It might already be here.

[The Batlord]

I wonder if the history books will be able to express 2000's cringe? Or will they pretend this isn't stupid just like every other part of history? Is that the secret behind all of history? Goofy stupidity that gets taken seriously because people can't handle the fact that the world they live in is just kind of dumb and embarassing?

[Norg]

yah know sometimes i think neither the President nor the Senate dont truly hold the power in the USA

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by Norg

yah know sometimes i think neither the President nor the Senate dont truly hold the power in the USA

That's your checks and balances at work for you.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Norg

yah know sometimes i think neither the President nor the Senate dont truly hold the power in the USA

Definitely. The power lies in the culture and behavior of the people. Who in America happen in to be toxic morons.

This is going to be a civil war.

Kenosha sure looked like it.

I wonder if the history books will be able to express 2000's cringe? Or will they pretend this isn't stupid just like every other part of history? Is that the secret behind all of history? Goofy stupidity that gets taken seriously because people can't handle the fact that the world they live in is just kind of dumb and embarassing?

Sometimes the cringe is captured by historians. Like the original Jamestown colonists hardly included anybody with medical and agricultural skills.

And Salem gets a laugh.

The civil war in Rwanda... World War One is often correctly portrayed as a big stupid war over nothing


But there are other acts of incredible idiocy that still get good reviews like the nuclear arms race. The entire Reagan administration. The denial of the toxic nature of Islam. The American Revolution.

and today endless dedication to the constitution capitalism and democracy despite mountains and mountains of evidence that it’s the most horrendous threat to humanity ever known... it looks good on paper but the proof is in the pudding and we’re drowning in pudding

[SGR]

Originally Posted by jwb

The 8 years of Obama gave rise to Trump and Sanders in 2016 to be fair. And there was enough energy behind a Bernie style message that it basically set the tone for the entire democratic party around healthcare at the very least.

Also I skipped the last 10 pages of this thread but Islam is a **** religion in general. There are exceptions but overall Islam is mostly just Arabs that actually still think Mosaic law is worth following.

What will Trump give rise to?

How likely is it that the Dems might run AOC in 2024 if they lose this year's election? I think she'd be old enough (by the time she gets inaugurated).

[jwb]

I don't want to wager to guess but based on current trends such a scenario only become more likely each 4 years

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

What will Trump give rise to?

How likely is it that the Dems might run AOC in 2024 if they lose this year's election? I think she'd be old enough (by the time she gets inaugurated).

Honestly I think what Trump will give rise to is more existential a threat than any specific policies he enacted or tried to enact. He showed that you can ignore common practices that most politicians cling to by virtue of simple tradition and now many potential scumbags will take note of things they could potentially always have done if they had the balls to be the first one to do it. He has lifted even further the curtain that gave an illusion of responsible representative democracy in such a way that it's like a canon blast to that curtain.

[SGR]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Honestly I think what Trump will give rise to is more existential a threat than any specific policies he enacted or tried to enact. He showed that you can ignore common practices that most politicians cling to by virtue of simple tradition and now many potential scumbags will take note of things they could potentially always have done if they had the balls to be the first one to do it. He has lifted even further the curtain that gave an illusion of responsible representative democracy in such a way that it's like a canon blast to that curtain.

It's possible that other politicians will start to become more 'Trumpian' after he loses. He has definitely shattered convention for what a President can do, say, or be. You seem to take a pessimistic view of this, and you don't do so incorrectly. But is it possible that, by shattering these conventions, we get another President from outside the realm of politics in the future who uses this new latitude of 'accepted behavior' to tell the American public the truth and lead it through a difficult period in history? I think so. I hope so. I hope that not all of the ramifications are negative ones.

I'm interested in what the Dems will do in the future but I'm perhaps more interested in what will become of the GOP after Trump. It may depend on whether he wins or loses. If he loses, I almost think they'll revert to a slightly more right-leaning version of what they used to be, with a greater focus on border security. I don't think they'll be able to find a candidate to fill the void of Donald Trump (unless they attempt to run Donald Jr.). If Trump wins 2020, he'll be the new Reagan after he leaves and I think it's more likely that the candidates of the party will have to reckon with Donald Trump's vision, more likely than not adopting most of his positions.