2020 US Election Thread

[OccultHawk]

HOLY ****!!!

I just went outside and you’re not gonna believe what’s going out there.

A car went by with a person inside. Releasing greenhouse gases in spite of global warming. And we’re in a hurricane zone. ****ing incredible.

And we’ve been one of the wealthiest nations on earth since the forties. Why didn’t the people disappear derp derp

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't understand what this is even supposed to mean

as it is, a small minority of the population does the vast majority of resource consumption

people in India living in cardboard boxes are not destroying the environment, native Africans are not destroying the environment

the commodity form is...SUVs, planes, cruise ships, McDonald's... China's arsenal of cheap doo dad and gadget factories

I mean I get your point and I agree but you talk like you think all 'native Africans' live in straw huts ffs

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm honestly acting in good faith here

a polluting automotive goes by, and the problem is...there exists a person?

walking doesn't pollute the environment...burning fossil fuels to power a car does

I’m just telling you what I saw. My assumption is the car was built by people with materials mined by people running on fuel that was extracted by people. The car was being driven by a person. Maybe it would help if I let you draw the conclusion. Which came first? The person or the car? The person or the road? The person or the pollution? Cause. Effect.

[Frownland]

Overpopulation does not exist. It was only proposed to justify abject poverty as a rule of life.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Overpopulation does not exist. It was only proposed to justify abject poverty as a rule of life.

Then it’s subsequently impossible for manmade environmental calamities to exist. Mankind being essential to manmade. Saying that makes you a climate change denier.

[Frownland]

Now you're getting it!

[Frownland]

Nope. Cause and effect.

[OccultHawk]

The problem isn’t that my apartment has roaches. The problem is that roaches are dirty. Imma teach the roaches how to take a shower and presto we’re all good.

And anyway, if you make sure conditions are optimized for them they’ll breed only up to the point that they cover every inch of your place. After that it levels out. No problem. Fixes itself.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

is it not possible

hear me out

to stop building cars?

It is, in fact, entirely impossible, to be human and not consume. In fact, the same rule applies to every living organism on earth. Baffling.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

you don't even want to try the sustainable consumption model?

even though it's the only possible ethical answer

there's no population control that isn't either a nightmare, or useless

You cannot sustain 7.5 billion. It’s not my fault that it’s inconvenient and a ****ing nightmare. Nature doesn’t always come with a built in ethical solution. It just exists. There’s not a key for every lock. Everything doesn’t always work out. We ****ed up and now we pay. There’s no escape. It can either be existential or almost existential. There’s an infinity of difference.

I know you don’t want to see it and therefore you can’t. There’s no other explanation than it’s an intellectual shortcoming. And that’s universally across the board for every denialist.