2020 US Election Thread

[Gutmensch]

Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I'd say any reasonable statement of your opinions is ok, (by which I mean being calm and gentle about it, not aiming to troll or hurt) but going on a transphobic rant results in a ban.

I am neither so-called homo- nor transphobic. But I have my special personal opinion about these phenomenons not built on ideology but on empiricism.

I am a realist. So I won't talk very openly about these things.

Homo- and transsexuality should be legal and without problems. But what happens when I discuss pathologic reasons?

It's not so important. I'm just interested because there are certain limitations in our "progressive" societies.

When I read your statement again I think it would be okay to discuss those reasons but you have to be polite and factual.

[Marie Monday]

Originally Posted by Gutmensch

When I read your statement again I think it would be okay to discuss those reasons but you have to be polite and factual.

Exactly

[jwb]

Moral obligation seems loaded

I think some amount of deception is permissible to try to get laid but that can also backfire

I think it would be smarter for at trans person to get that out in the open right away since if that's gonna be a deal breaker you are saving both parties wasted time.

For casual sexual encounters I don't really care except that it might be more dangerous to hide it. If someone who's transphobic finds out about the deception that can be very dangerous.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by Gutmensch

I have a question: Is pathologizing transsexuality (and homosexuality) against the forum rules?

As a German I have the impression that this forum is quite tolerant and maintains an American understanding of freedom of speech.

uh oh guys, looks like we've attracted the attention of the Stasi

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

red flags out the wazoo just at the word pathology

Yeah lol

Just put your hate in the open gut. It grows better in sunlight.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

that's pretty crap because it amounts to never being able to "pass" in a complete way

if they hide for a casual relationship and then it develops into something else organically, now they're stuck in a situation where their partner might freak out on them

so idk, maybe best practice would be to disclose, but I can't help but feeling that the situation would be best for all involved if it simply didn't matter

well yeah... If it didn't matter then this wouldn't be a question. But it does matter to a lot of people so it is.

Honestly the whole they can never pass seems like it's based on the current norms where it's preferable to pass as a cis woman than just being openly trans.. which if we got to the point where it actually didn't matter I don't see why you wouldn't be open about that experience, which is very distinct from the experience of a woman who was born that way and never had to transition.i don't see how that ever stops being a district part of your identity regardless of the social norms.

[Frownland]

Just dropping in to add that anal sex does not (and should not) exclusively lend itself to doggystyle.

[jwb]

Yeh but I had to try to trick them into being bi somehow. Thanks for the insight though.

[Lucem Ferre]

Long ago JWB said he was going to **** me in the ass. He's now coming to collect and was attempting the easy way.

[Anteater]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Long ago JWB said he was going to **** me in the ass. He's now coming to collect and was attempting the easy way.