2020 US Election Thread

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Currents probably

Yeah it's probably so much harder for us to go to Cuba then them to come here... It has nothing to do with them being dirt poor and ruled by banana republic thugs

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

They’re just being little bitches because they want to own property.

That pos from the video complains about Franco and Castro and then tears up because he loves the most autocratic president since Jackson.

every poor person who comes here from the third world wants to own property

I made the point about floating down there on a flotilla not because I'm saying love it or leave it but to clue you in on the stakes of making such a journey. People aren't doing that **** frivolously. They're obviously fleeing from desperate circumstances.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by jwb

Yeah it's probably so much harder for us to go to Cuba then them to come here... It has nothing to do with them being dirt poor and ruled by banana republic thugs

American refugees usually take planes to Cuba iirc so it's probably more relevant than you'd think.

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And how common is that do you think?

I'm sure it happens...I know people who have gone there... But it's rather odd to ignore the material conditions here where in the case of every other impoverished country we never doubt what the motivation is for them coming here.

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Like to the extent maybe currents are relevant... It's only cause they are being trapped there by a regime that won't let them leave and so their only escape route is via jumping on a raft out to sea and praying that you make it across.... That's kinda the point.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by jwb

every poor person who comes here from the third world wants to own property

I made the point about floating down there on a flotilla not because I'm saying love it or leave it but to clue you in on the stakes of making such a journey. People aren't doing that **** frivolously. They're obviously fleeing from desperate circumstances.

They don’t want liberation. They want to become capitalist oppressors.

I’m sick of people chasing the American dream. The American dream is to try to put yourself in a position where you can hoard wealth and oppress others. They shouldn’t be here working hard and crying because they love Trump and Ronald Reagan. They should be blowing up buildings because America has spent decades keeping their homeland down.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by jwb

Like to the extent maybe currents are relevant... It's only cause they are being trapped there by a regime that won't let them leave and so their only escape route is via jumping on a raft out to sea and praying that you make it across.... That's kinda the point.

It would be a lot harder to take one against a current though, admit it.

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That's really just it. You don't understand why poor people want to not be poor. That is really all you mean by the American dream. People want money. Poor people especially. You don't understand why people would come from a 3rd world banana republic and be happy to live here cause you don't know that struggle. That's all it really is fundamentally. People's politics aren't always completely informed or bound to confirm your meta narrative. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It would be a lot harder to take one against a current though, admit it.

Yeah but we don't need to and we still are less likely to want to move there than vice versa.

I picked the flotillas explicitly to demonstrate the obvious desperation involved. Something we probably have a hard time actually relating to. That's just our privilege though.

[OccultHawk]

How many third world countries have you been to exactly?