Should Felons be allowed to own guns?

SGR · 08-30-2020, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Like I said if we were going to go case by case the only plausible scenario I can think of is cases like domestic murder or abuse. That's the only kind of crime that typically involves a legal gun that isn't severe enough to warrant life/the death penalty. To me, mass shooters should never see the light of day, so they aren't relevant.

Interesting. I don't know if I agree with you. Generally my take has been that if a criminal has done their time and is released, their rights should be fully restored. They will have enough issues with finding employment with their felony record. That said, I'm not a hardliner on the issue, I could be swayed.

Are you a supporter of the death penalty, out of curiosity?

08-30-2020, 02:54 PM

I mean I'm actually making a concession to say on a case he case basis maybe some people should be restricted. My initial impulse is like you say to just restore felons their full rights.

I support the death penalty in theory but not in practice. Some people do deserve to die but the state can't be trusted to selectively yet efficiently mete out death.

SGR · 08-30-2020, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I mean I'm actually making a concession to say on a case he case basis maybe some people should be restricted. My initial impulse is like you say to just restore felons their full rights.

I support the death penalty in theory but not in practice. Some people do deserve to die but the state can't be trusted to selectively yet efficiently mete out death.

Fair enough, I agree with your perspective here.

If we could know, 100% of the time, whether someone is or isn't culpable for a crime, I would support the death penalty. But I've heard too many stories of people on death row who get exonerated, often with DNA evidence. My other issue is that I just can't square the circle that it's not okay for a citizen to kill someone but it is okay for the state to kill someone.

I tend to agree with Blackstone's Principle: It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.

Norg · 08-30-2020, 07:45 PM

what if the only thing gun shops will sell felons is red rifle bb guns

i think thats a good idea ...???

The Batlord · 08-30-2020, 07:54 PM

They'll put their ey- oh my god I can't even finish that I hate that movie so much.

08-30-2020, 07:58 PM

I was thinking with all the PC remakes of classic movies, they could make A Christmas Story where instead of a bb gun the kid wants a transgender Barbie doll.

That way it's different enough to be modern yet they can still keep the tagline "you'll put your eye out, kid."

Lisnaholic · 08-31-2020, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

That way it's different enough to be modern yet they can still keep the tagline "you'll put your eye out, kid."

If that is some kind of iconic line, I'm afraid it must've sunk on it's way across the Atlantic.

The Batlord · 08-30-2020, 09:15 PM

Yeah sure, Sargon.

SGR · 08-30-2020, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah sure, Sargon.

Are you comparing jwb to Sargon of Cuck-ad?

jwb is better than that - and if you're honest, you'd agree, even if you disagree with some of his takes on things.

08-31-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah sure, Sargon.

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08-30-2020, 02:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a	I mean I'm actually making a concession to say on a case he case basis maybe some people should be restricted. My initial impulse is like you say to just restore felons their full rights. I support the death penalty in theory but not in practice. Some people do deserve to die but the state can't be trusted to selectively yet efficiently mete out death.

08-30-2020, 07:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,367	what if the only thing gun shops will sell felons is red rifle bb guns i think thats a good idea ...???

08-30-2020, 07:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
jwb Guest Posts: n/a	I was thinking with all the PC remakes of classic movies, they could make A Christmas Story where instead of a bb gun the kid wants a transgender Barbie doll. That way it's different enough to be modern yet they can still keep the tagline "you'll put your eye out, kid."