The Second American Civil War Thread

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

If you think that fascism's rise in America is just about racism then you might as well say that Islamist extremism rising in the middle east is just due to religion.

Economic insecurity fuels hatred even if the fascist may not realize it.

But kind of along jwb’s lines there’s ****loads of combinations that cause people to be what they are

Even I understand that not everything is about class in other people’s minds. It just aggravates the **** out of me because I believe so strongly that wealth redistribution is the answer to pretty much ****ing everything. It wouldn’t eliminate racism but it would take most of the power out of it.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah we can always talk about the underlining social causes of racism

but it's hard to compare these things when Trump appeals to American middle class whites, some of the most comfortable people in the history of the world

There's other factors at work there. The inherent tribalism of a population that feels its privileged status slowly chipped away at.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah we can always talk about the underlining social causes of racism

but it's hard to compare these things when Trump appeals to American middle class whites, some of the most comfortable people in the history of the world

You don’t think there’s rich and middle class muzzos that want to nuke Austin?

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah we can always talk about the underlining social causes of racism

but it's hard to compare these things when Trump appeals to American middle class whites, some of the most comfortable people in the history of the world

I thought we were talking about hicks? How do you define a hick? I thought a hick was poor country folk.

Originally Posted by jwb

There's other factors at work there. The inherent tribalism of a population that feels its privileged status slowly chipped away at.

Mother****ing precisely. The class with something to actually lose but without the cushion of failing upward.

[jwb]

And for another parallel with the Islamic extremism analogy.. a lot of the biggest terrorists come from wealthy, educated backgrounds. It's all a power struggle.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You don’t think there’s rich and middle class muzzos that want to nuke Austin?

Not really. They might hold that position but they care way more about maintaining their position on the social ladder unless they're ****ing nuts.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by jwb

And for another parallel with the Islamic extremism analogy.. a lot of the biggest terrorists come from wealthy, educated backgrounds. It's all a power struggle.

I couldn't tell you but I'd assume those people don't have any interest in being the foot soldiers for Islamic extremism but really love the idea of having a lot of fun being warlords just like rich European colonialists who love the idea of galavanting around Africa being "explorers" or starting coups as a hobby.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by jwb

There's other factors at work there. The inherent tribalism of a population that feels its privileged status slowly chipped away at.

Without wealth redistribution “equality” just means the white middle class joins the disenfranchised.

It’s baffling beyond belief that it’s so hard to vilify the wealth hoarders.

Case in point, people actually hate the people who raided congress more than congress themselves. I mean, sure, hate them both but ffs don’t get your head twisted about who the real murdering fascists are. BECAUSE OF **** THEY'VE REALLY DONE.

Do you know how many people died today because of America’s behavior rubber stamped by both parties in congress? A lot more than ****ing five.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

our rich do **** like murder their generals without so much as an apology

when we aren't bombing their poor

every muzzer has a great reason to hate Americans and I shouldn't have to tell you that

I totally agree.

[jwb]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Not really. They might hold that position but they care way more about maintaining their position on the social ladder unless they're ****ing nuts.

Osama bin laden was rich as ****. Ayman al-Zawahiri was an engineer. They both gave up opulent lifestyles to go live in a cave in Afghanistan and wage jihad on the west. If you don't think they were firm believers then you don't know your ****.

There were studies that showed that on average ISIS recruits from the middle east were richer and more educated than the average citizen in their country of origin. There's tons of Saudi millionaires who are funding the spread of the whole wahhabi message and islamist groups and madrasssas around the world.