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Old 09-13-2022, 03:56 PM   #491 (permalink)
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Who owns the means of production in a small business?
who cares?

the operator of a food truck is obviously not the same class as a factory owner
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Old 09-14-2022, 11:47 AM   #492 (permalink)
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Ah so you actually know you are wrong but are doing everything to avoid saying it. I think I'm done trying to hold your hand through this one. You are either bad faith or just bad at following. an argument.
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:49 PM   #493 (permalink)
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seems like your argument is that having any kind of business makes you bourgeois

and that you can't be proletariat and be self-employed because being proletariat necessitates exploitation from a direct boss

I follow what you're getting at, I'm just saying it's actually not what Marx said or what Marxists typically say about class
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Old 09-14-2022, 02:13 PM   #494 (permalink)
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if we take a look at small farmers we have folks that own a business of sort but don't escape exploitation and are certainly not considered bourgeois
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Old 09-14-2022, 04:00 PM   #495 (permalink)
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why do yall like Joe biden ..???
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Old 09-14-2022, 08:24 PM   #496 (permalink)
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I haven't seen much of him on TV lately. The memes I see, where he starts talking, then spews out gibberish, incoherent babble, is that really how he is during a speech?

I saw another meme where he pulled a Ron Burgundy and read everything on the teleprompter, including "end of quote".

Is he ok, or is he on his way to dementia?
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Old 09-15-2022, 05:59 AM   #497 (permalink)
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I haven't seen much of him on TV lately. The memes I see, where he starts talking, then spews out gibberish, incoherent babble, is that really how he is during a speech?

I saw another meme where he pulled a Ron Burgundy and read everything on the teleprompter, including "end of quote".

Is he ok, or is he on his way to dementia?


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Old 09-15-2022, 06:13 AM   #498 (permalink)
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I haven't seen much of him on TV lately. The memes I see, where he starts talking, then spews out gibberish, incoherent babble, is that really how he is during a speech?

I saw another meme where he pulled a Ron Burgundy and read everything on the teleprompter, including "end of quote".

Is he ok, or is he on his way to dementia?


He's fine. Biden has been gaffing it up for the past twenty years at least. He even managed to embarrass Obama a few times. I think the dementia thing is just another right wing attempt to demonize the people they don't like.


PS- At least Biden reads teleprompters.
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Old 09-15-2022, 07:57 AM   #499 (permalink)
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He's fine. Biden has been gaffing it up for the past twenty years at least. He even managed to embarrass Obama a few times. I think the dementia thing is just another right wing attempt to demonize the people they don't like.


PS- At least Biden reads teleprompters.
I don't know about dementia, but he certainly has a history of gaffes - it seems like his gaffes have been getting more noticeable though recently. And of course Republicans latch on to that and claim he's unfit for office.



Being the president is a very demanding job, and the guy is pushing 80. For a near 80 year old man, he's in pretty great physical shape - in fact, he could even be a role model for maintaining your health, all credit due to him - but let's not pretend people's brains don't start slowing down a bit by that point. There's a reason his staffers so often shoo out the press from asking questions of him after he gives a speech or makes an appearance somewhere.

I've said it before, but there's too many wrinkly asses in congress and god bless the old farts, but '70s and up seems like it's too damn old to be the President to me. At the very least, it should be a bigger electability issue than it seems to be. Anyone remember Reagan's second term?
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Old 09-15-2022, 08:16 AM   #500 (permalink)
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Reagan's last year or two could have been potentially scary. There is a thought out there that he may have (unknowingly) been in the early stages of Alzheimer's as early as 1987.
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