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jwb 05-23-2021 03:41 AM

Judaism
 
Since Islam gets a thread and so does Christianity it only makes sense that there would be a thread for the original mother religion Judaism. Just like the Jews deserve to own Israel they also deserve a thread of their own on musicbanter. Discuss.


Guybrush 05-23-2021 03:48 AM

I liked the Netflix series Unorthodox

Neapolitan 05-23-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174007)
Since Islam gets a thread and so does Christianity it only makes sense that there would be a thread for the original mother religion Judaism. Just like the Jews deserve to own Israel they also deserve a thread of their own on musicbanter. Discuss.


Oy vey. You're such a content provider.

Trollheart 05-23-2021 02:46 PM

I can't really add anything to this topic, but I would say that anyone who makes the effort to create a thread and get some sort of discussion going deserves praise and support, not sarcasm and scorn.

The Batlord 05-23-2021 02:48 PM

Jet fuel doesn't melt steal beams but space lasers do.

rostasi 05-23-2021 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2174072)
I can't really add anything to this topic, but I would say that anyone who makes the effort to create a thread and get some sort of discussion going deserves praise and support, not sarcasm and scorn.

Au contraire.

Trollheart 05-23-2021 07:25 PM

What? You disagree?

rostasi 05-23-2021 07:31 PM

Well, ummm...yes!
We should give anyone praise and support just for starting a new thread
no matter what the subject?
Surely you don’t mean this. (and I’ll stop calling you Shirley).

jwb 05-23-2021 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2174056)
Oy vey. You're such a content provider.

Love you too, neo :beer:

Neapolitan 05-23-2021 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174073)
Jet fuel doesn't melt steal beams but space lasers do.

.... or a long and serious glance from Superman.

The Batlord 05-23-2021 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2174114)
.... or a long and serious glance from Superman.

And (((who))) created Superman?

Trollheart 05-23-2021 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2174112)
Well, ummm...yes!
We should give anyone praise and support just for starting a new thread
no matter what the subject?
Surely you don’t mean this. (and I’ll stop calling you Shirley).

Well I think that effort should be rewarded. If you sneer at every thread made then who's going to bother making them? You may not agree with the thread but I personally can't stand ignorant sneering. I'm not saying people should be carrying jwb on their shoulders down Main Street or anything, but I also don't think snide comments about his threads - or anyone's - are merited. Some people tend to do nothing but layer the snark on.

rostasi 05-23-2021 08:41 PM

So, if I make a thread about, oh, let’s say,
“The advantages of child rape”,
then I should have “praise and support”
heaped on me without negative commentary?

You must be new here.

Lucem Ferre 05-23-2021 09:18 PM

What exactly are the advantages of child rape?

Neapolitan 05-23-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174115)
And (((who))) created Superman?

Russell Crowe aka Jor-El, he did it with his Kryptonian wife aka Lara the old fashion way - the first time it was done in centuries on the planet Krypton - plus the codex was also involved too.

rostasi 05-23-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2174121)
What exactly are the advantages of child rape?

https://i.imgur.com/fQ6nYTj.jpg

Guybrush 05-24-2021 02:45 AM

I generally don't think you should make a thread unless you have some argument or question or something else a little specific that you wanna bring up.

These posts could just as well be in the spam thread. Without specifics to discuss, people don't stay on topic. When threads don't stay on topic, much of MB turns into this more or less homogenous soup of general, slightly bitter banter punctuated by light jabs from Batlord. There's a place for that, but on-topic discussions are cool too.

The Batlord 05-24-2021 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2174122)
Russell Crowe aka Jor-El, he did it with his Kryptonian wife aka Lara the old fashion way - the first time it was done in centuries on the planet Krypton - plus the codex was also involved too.

Hahahahahahahaha nope it was two New York Jews!!!

Trollheart 05-24-2021 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2174119)
So, if I make a thread about, oh, let’s say,
“The advantages of child rape”,
then I should have “praise and support”
heaped on me without negative commentary?

You must be new here.

Just joined.
How do I advertise my CDs for sale? And how do I become a mod?

Trollheart 05-24-2021 05:10 AM


jwb 05-24-2021 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 2174147)
I generally don't think you should make a thread unless you have some argument or question or something else a little specific that you wanna bring up.

These posts could just as well be in the spam thread. Without specifics to discuss, people don't stay on topic. When threads don't stay on topic, much of MB turns into this more or less homogenous soup of general, slightly bitter banter punctuated by light jabs from Batlord. There's a place for that, but on-topic discussions are cool too.

there's plenty to discuss about Judaism

I posted a very interesting and informative video to start it off

Not my fault if nobody else is staying on topic

Lisnaholic 05-24-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174158)
there's plenty to discuss about Judaism

I posted a very interesting and informative video to start it off

Not my fault if nobody else is staying on topic

Obviously Judaism is a huge subject, but I didn't do very well with your choice of video, jwb. I watched about 3 mins of some intrusive journalist deliberately baiting a young, mild-mannered Jewish guy with obscure, hard-to-defend Talmud quotes, by which time I was too offended to continue. Perhaps the video would be better employed in a Media Studies course: How Not To Conduct An Interview.

AFAIK, the Jewish community in England is extensive but dispersed. They are assimilated rather than orthodox. That's why this excellent novel, which takes a peak into Hassidic Jews in New York, was such an eye-opener to me. Easy to read and highly recommended, it's like the Catcher In The Rye guy got off at the wrong subway stop and found himself in a completely different New York.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...rIqLg&usqp=CAU

Has anybody here read The Chosen by Chaim Potok? I'm also curious to know: is it a well-known book in the US?

Guybrush 05-24-2021 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174158)
I posted a very interesting and informative video to start it off

Ah, right. I didn't watch it.. my bad.

Jews are less than a thousandth of the norwegian population, so I think most of what we know about jews comes from american television.

With that in mind, I really like Curb Your Enthusiasm.

The Batlord 05-24-2021 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 2174161)
Ah, right. I didn't watch it.. my bad.

Jews are less than a thousandth of the norwegian population, so I think most of what we know about jews comes from american television.

With that in mind, I really like Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Yeah I wonder why.

Guybrush 05-24-2021 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174162)
Yeah I wonder why.

You probably don't, but for everyone else, Norway was occupied by nazi Germany during the second world war and the jewish community at that time was obliterated by the nazis and their sympathizers.

To that one can add a history with anti-semitism and anti-semitic laws, as was common in most if not all of Europe.

jwb 05-24-2021 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2174160)
Obviously Judaism is a huge subject, but I didn't do very well with your choice of video, jwb. I watched about 3 mins of some intrusive journalist deliberately baiting a young, mild-mannered Jewish guy with obscure, hard-to-defend Talmud quotes, by which time I was too offended to continue. Perhaps the video would be better employed in a Media Studies course: How Not To Conduct An Interview.

AFAIK, the Jewish community in England is extensive but dispersed. They are assimilated rather than orthodox. That's why this excellent novel, which takes a peak into Hassidic Jews in New York, was such an eye-opener to me. Easy to read and highly recommended, it's like the Catcher In The Rye guy got off at the wrong subway stop and found himself in a completely different New York.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...rIqLg&usqp=CAU

Has anybody here read The Chosen by Chaim Potok? I'm also curious to know: is it a well-known book in the US?

that's cause you didn't watch it past 3 mins

Trust me it's not the video it's your inclination to jump to conclusions... The video is very informative if you have the patience to actually watch it. As it gets towards the end it only gets better and better.

The Batlord 05-24-2021 08:01 AM

Nah that guy comes off like a ****head and I assumed you were just trolling.

jwb 05-24-2021 08:05 AM

I assumed that was what it was when I watched the first few minutes too... Yet I kept watching and discovered that whether he's a dick or not the video is most certainly informative

jwb 05-24-2021 08:09 AM

BTW the guy who made the video is obviously also a Jew.. Hence speaking Hebrew.

Guybrush 05-24-2021 08:12 AM

I also turned it off after a few minutes because it seemed mostly like trolling. To be honest, I do a similar thing to religious people if they approach me in the hopes of getting a convert, but putting a camera in their face at the same time seems a little extra aggressive.

On your recommendation, jwb, I'll check it out a little more.

Side note, but on a couple of occasions I've discussed with american mormons. I asked one of them why she was in Norway. She said she'd been sent here by a prophet. Poor girl.. it's like a light version of human trafficking.

The Batlord 05-24-2021 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174167)
I assumed that was what it was when I watched the first few minutes too... Yet I kept watching and discovered that whether he's a dick or not the video is most certainly informative

You were the one who was interested in it in the first place.

rostasi 05-24-2021 09:03 AM

In another thread, I mentioned a composer friend from Norway.
With the last name of Goldstein, he'll sometimes mention some
"firsts" concerning being Jewish in Norway. He lives in Ågotnes.

jwb 05-24-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2174175)
You were the one who was interested in it in the first place.

Yep cause I'm an original thinker not like you mouth breathers...

Lisnaholic 05-24-2021 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174164)
that's cause you didn't watch it past 3 mins

Trust me it's not the video it's your inclination to jump to conclusions... The video is very informative if you have the patience to actually watch it. As it gets towards the end it only gets better and better.

That seems rather unnecessary. I prefer the phrase "come to a conclusion", having done you the courtesy of giving the video 3 mins to win me over. After all, it's not like your brusque OP gave us any particular incentive to watch the video:-

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174007)
Since Islam gets a thread and so does Christianity it only makes sense that there would be a thread for the original mother religion Judaism. Just like the Jews deserve to own Israel they also deserve a thread of their own on musicbanter. Discuss.


A mild interest in Judaism (thread title) does not automatically indicate a desire to listen to Jews talking about the Talmud (video title). Perhaps I should have done with your post what you did with two of the three topics I raised connected to Judaism: ignore them.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2174160)
AFAIK, the Jewish community in England is extensive but dispersed. They are assimilated rather than orthodox. That's why this excellent novel, which takes a peak into Hassidic Jews in New York, was such an eye-opener to me. Easy to read and highly recommended, it's like the Catcher In The Rye guy got off at the wrong subway stop and found himself in a completely different New York.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...rIqLg&usqp=CAU

Has anybody here read The Chosen by Chaim Potok? I'm also curious to know: is it a well-known book in the US?

* In fairness, you are not alone in this regard. ;) but also :(

Trollheart 05-24-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 2174160)
Obviously Judaism is a huge subject, but I didn't do very well with your choice of video, jwb. I watched about 3 mins of some intrusive journalist deliberately baiting a young, mild-mannered Jewish guy with obscure, hard-to-defend Talmud quotes, by which time I was too offended to continue. Perhaps the video would be better employed in a Media Studies course: How Not To Conduct An Interview.

AFAIK, the Jewish community in England is extensive but dispersed. They are assimilated rather than orthodox. That's why this excellent novel, which takes a peak into Hassidic Jews in New York, was such an eye-opener to me. Easy to read and highly recommended, it's like the Catcher In The Rye guy got off at the wrong subway stop and found himself in a completely different New York.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...rIqLg&usqp=CAU

Has anybody here read The Chosen by Chaim Potok? I'm also curious to know: is it a well-known book in the US?

Mine was better :p:
Quote:

Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2174176)
In another thread, I mentioned a composer friend from Norway.
With the last name of Goldstein, he'll sometimes mention some
"firsts" concerning being Jewish in Norway. He lives in Ågotnes.

Didn't he write The Principles of Collective Oligarchy? ;)

The Batlord 05-24-2021 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174179)
Yep cause I'm an original thinker not like you mouth breathers...

Yes you really outwatched us some Youtube videos.

Neapolitan 05-24-2021 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2174158)
there's plenty to discuss about Judaism

I posted a very interesting and informative video to start it off

Not my fault if nobody else is staying on topic

What do you mean nobody? I'm right on topic. I'm just starting off slow, setting up a foundation and building up slowly. First I introduce a little Jewish humor. Then I name drop one of the most iconic superheroes of all time whose archetypes come from well known Biblical characters such as Moses and Samson. I don't care what anybody thinks, but I'm on topic.

jwb 05-24-2021 10:19 PM

Actually that's true neo. You're relentlessly on topic.

And yeah obviously I was being lazy/trying to peer pressure you guys into watching the video but there actually ate some decent highlights towards the end. Maybe when I get time I'll isolate them

Neapolitan 05-27-2021 11:09 AM

Hello there wonderful content provider,

I watch most of it. I'm not sure what the point of interest is for you. I'm also not sure in which way you are affiliated with Judaism. Are you Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed, or Hasidic? If you do not want to indulge with such information I will understand. There are a few MB members not very tolerant of religion or a belief in God. I don't want you to suffer sarcasm or scorn by sharing something personal like that.

I was not shocked in the least by the dog statement. There are quite a few people who will without hesitation tell you that they hate humans and love their pet animals especially dogs.

I like how the interveiwer only had a handful of quotes out of the 6.2K pages of the Talmud, and was acting like "I gotcha." while the interviewees where like "what are you talking about?"

The Batlord 05-27-2021 02:57 PM

Nea simping for Jews cause he wants them all to get nuked in Israel so he can get raptured.


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