Will Biden be another one term president?

rubber soul · 12-13-2021, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Would it be a fair point to say that the dems are being way too soft on those who took part in the insurrection? Anyone who had an active part in that should be receiving years, not months or ****ing days, and anyone who organised it should be looking at close to a life sentence. It's sedition and treason, plain and simple, and if Biden terrified the right's supporters by sending these people to prison - proper prison, not some ****ing resort where they can kick back and write their poxy memoirs - for real terms, real sentences, maybe, just maybe they'd think twice before doing it again.

Trump's supporters should have been scared of Biden's revenge. Instead he and his party went "can't we all get along?" and though they gave him the finger, he did basically nothing. Few slaps on the wrist, few token prison sentences, don't do it again or we'll be cross. Imagine if the positions were reversed? Gallows, man. Gallows.

You sound like we should be acting like one of those banana republics. Punishing the other side for being the other side has only resulted in revenge wars upon revenge wars. Yes, those involved in the insurrection should be brought to justice, but we also need to show mercy. Yes, the high profile offenders should do some real time, hopefully with some of the people they despise the most, but maybe the average dupe who got drawn into the mess should get a break. Maybe I'm being naive, but, maybe if we can all realize none of us are inherently evil (well, most of us, anyway), we can find a way to the light at the end of the tunnel.

I mean there has to be a reason why Martin Luther King prevailed in history and Adolf Hitler didn't, right?

Trollheart · 12-13-2021, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

You sound like we should be acting like one of those banana republics. Punishing the other side for being the other side has only resulted in revenge wars upon revenge wars. Yes, those involved in the insurrection should be brought to justice, but we also need to show mercy. Yes, the high profile offenders should do some real time, hopefully with some of the people they despise the most, but maybe the average dupe who got drawn into the mess should get a break. Maybe I'm being naive, but, maybe if we can all realize none of us are inherently evil (well, most of us, anyway), we can find a way to the light at the end of the tunnel.

I mean there has to be a reason why Martin Luther King prevailed in history and Adolf Hitler didn't, right?

I vehemently do not agree. Yes you can have moderation but the time comes when you need to bring the hammer down. All this wishy-washy "on your way don't be a bad boy/girl again" is bull****. So what's the lesson learned? Take up arms, break into a center of government and try to depose the lawfully elected administration and... what? We'll ask you to think about being more respectful next time? Banana republic or not, there's a lot to be said for a show of force and a don't **** with us attitude when you come up against blank hatred and mindless, continuing violence like this. What was it Gandalf said? "The burned hand teaches best. After that, advice about fire goes to the heart." Think this would be the reaction in Russia?

rubber soul · 12-13-2021, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I vehemently do not agree. Yes you can have moderation but the time comes when you need to bring the hammer down. All this wishy-washy "on your way don't be a bad boy/girl again" is bull****. So what's the lesson learned? Take up arms, break into a center of government and try to depose the lawfully elected administration and... what? We'll ask you to think about being more respectful next time? Banana republic or not, there's a lot to be said for a show of force and a don't **** with us attitude when you come up against blank hatred and mindless, continuing violence like this. What was it Gandalf said? "The burned hand teaches best. After that, advice about fire goes to the heart." Think this would be the reaction in Russia?

And look what a history of violence has done for them.

Trollheart · 12-13-2021, 02:21 PM

All I'm saying is sometimes the teacher needs to do more than smile and say "now kids" to quiet down the class. Make an example. One, two, three maybe proper decent BIG sentences. Send some of these ****s who "think they did nothing wrong" down to show them, and the sheep that followed them, that they did. Put the ****ing boot in. Doesn't have to become a police state but MAKE A ****ING EXAMPLE. Your problem seems to be the same as those in power: afraid to really lay down the law for fear of being called fascists, when you KNOW the other side will do exactly this if they get into power. Is it better to be respected or feared? Good question.

FYI, a history of violence? Revolution certainly (didn't the US have something similar?) but what do you think are the chances of armed insurrectionists storming the Kremlin and then bragging about it on social media? I'm not saying they do everything right, but sometimes you have to admit they know when to push back hard. America, under Biden, does not, or fears to, and the Right exploit that for all it's worth.

Answer me this: do you think the current response (if you can call it that) is any sort of deterrent towards this happening again? Answers on a bloodstained postcard...

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12-13-2021, 02:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	All I'm saying is sometimes the teacher needs to do more than smile and say "now kids" to quiet down the class. Make an example. One, two, three maybe proper decent BIG sentences. Send some of these **s who "think they did nothing wrong" down to show them, and the sheep that followed them, that they did. Put the ing boot in. Doesn't have to become a police state but MAKE A *ING EXAMPLE. Your problem seems to be the same as those in power: afraid to really lay down the law for fear of being called fascists, when you KNOW the other side will do exactly this if they get into power. Is it better to be respected or feared? Good question. FYI, a history of violence? Revolution certainly (didn't the US have something similar?) but what do you think are the chances of armed insurrectionists storming the Kremlin and then bragging about it on social media? I'm not saying they do everything right, but sometimes you have to admit they know when to push back hard. America, under Biden, does not, or fears to, and the Right exploit that for all it's worth. Answer me this: do you think the current response (if you can call it that) is any sort of deterrent towards this happening again? Answers on a bloodstained postcard... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*