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SGR 02-24-2022 04:49 PM
It's an interesting question that must be confronted as to when some bully who utilizes MAD to threaten you can be stopped.

At what point does America and/or NATO progress past sanctions and strongly worded letters?

At some point, NATO will need to step in and show them that we have our own bombs and hope that they value their lives as much as we value ours - and then give them a good punch in the nose.

Who's got the guts?

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Originally Posted by Raime (Post 2200275)
As an American, my government has ****ed **** up in different parts of the world, and I've grown to distrust it. I even severely doubted warnings that Russia would invade because of the "intelligence" our government was said to possess (Iraq anyone?). So, in a way, I blame the past actions of our government for basically gaslighting the whole ****ing world for years.
Once bitten (actually, several times bitten), twice shy.

FETCHER. 02-24-2022 04:51 PM
Nobody if Putin is just going to nuke them.

The Batlord 02-24-2022 05:30 PM
Stupid ****ing Ruskies.

Chernobyl no-go zone targeted as Russia invades Ukraine

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An official familiar with current assessments said Russian shelling hit a radioactive waste repository at Chernobyl, and an increase in radiation levels was reported. The increase could not be immediately corroborated.

FETCHER. 02-24-2022 05:33 PM
^ I don’t think your link is working

Mindfulness 02-24-2022 06:07 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...260&height=563

SGR 02-24-2022 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2200284)
Putin has done a good enough job of making the world unsure as to whether he would be crazy enough to use nuclear weapons that he can take Ukraine with only sanctions
Still, where's the line drawn? Would NATO wait until one of its own member countries (Poland, Romania) is directly threatened before they nut up? Or are they going to engage in a modern day "Munich Agreement"?

Personally, I don't think Putin would be willing to risk his entire country's well-being for his military ventures. But I also don't think NATO or America have the gumption to threaten him with it. And I think Putin knows that.

Also, this whole ordeal is a prime example of why North Korea doesn't want to give up their nuclear weapons, and I can't say that I blame them.

Norg 02-24-2022 07:01 PM
i think having nuclear weapons actually prevents total war were neither side can push to far

so there might be a time were Russia test NATOs resolve the will attack the bloc states Romania and Poland etc etc and the west will try and defend them with conventional means

but russia will go no further west then germany

acctually its prob in USA turkey and France and UK to all leave nato its really not in there best interest to be in this alliance anymore

The Batlord 02-24-2022 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FETCHER. (Post 2200286)
^ I don’t think your link is working
Oops. Link fixed and here you go.

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-c...f8f250a73a1bb5

Norg 02-24-2022 07:28 PM
sometimes i think some in USA want a total nuclear war they want to drop the population down to a few hundered thousand again and start over

they wont care the elites will be in there underground vaults :P

The Batlord 02-24-2022 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2200299)
my guess is once they hit a "western" country that'd mean annihilation, but everything else is fair game for Russia

it doesn't seem comparable to appeasement because there really is a hard limit here
It's not appeasement if they're gonna conquer a limited amount of territory. **** off.


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