Any Pagans here?

FETCHER. · 07-19-2022, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush

Same here. As a kid, I was borrowing books about the greek myths, gods and heroes, and of course as a Norwegian you're easily exposed to stories about the norse gods, Odin, Thor and Loki in particular.

However, just because you read a story about Orpheus bargaining with Hades for the life of Eurydike doesn't mean you have to believe it actually happened or that Hades is real.

There is actually a big difference. A big predictor for what religion you belong to is simply your location. If you are from Saudi Arabia, chances are you're a Muslim. If you're from the US, particularly some areas more than others, chances are you're a Christian. Obviously culture / environment and indoctrination plays a huge role. You can blame other people.

In this case, you may not have other people to force these falsehoods on you. Instead, have to fool yourself. This is especially true if you get into the sometimes witchcraft beliefs of paganism which require dedicated efforts of self-delusion.

When I read your post, I don't get the feeling you actually believe. I get the impression you kinda think its cool and you have a pagan phase. But why would you wanna live with all that cognitive dissonance?

If you've broken off from a major religion, good on you. Instead of then stumbling into a minor one, why not getting into skepticism and critical thinking? It's infinitely more powerful and will help you out more than religious beliefs will.

This is the impression I got.

gandhara · 07-19-2022, 08:51 PM

Pretty long phase if I'm 39 and have pretty much the same beliefs since I was 15..

In other words, I'm dead serious lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guybrush

Same here. As a kid, I was borrowing books about the greek myths, gods and heroes, and of course as a Norwegian you're easily exposed to stories about the norse gods, Odin, Thor and Loki in particular.

However, just because you read a story about Orpheus bargaining with Hades for the life of Eurydike doesn't mean you have to believe it actually happened or that Hades is real.

There is actually a big difference. A big predictor for what religion you belong to is simply your location. If you are from Saudi Arabia, chances are you're a Muslim. If you're from the US, particularly some areas more than others, chances are you're a Christian. Obviously culture / environment and indoctrination plays a huge role. You can blame other people.

In this case, you may not have other people to force these falsehoods on you. Instead, have to fool yourself. This is especially true if you get into the sometimes witchcraft beliefs of paganism which require dedicated efforts of self-delusion.

When I read your post, I don't get the feeling you actually believe. I get the impression you kinda think its cool and you have a pagan phase. But why would you wanna live with all that cognitive dissonance?

If you've broken off from a major religion, good on you. Instead of then stumbling into a minor one, why not getting into skepticism and critical thinking? It's infinitely more powerful and will help you out more than religious beliefs will.

**Frownland** · 07-18-2022, 01:50 PM

Most of them are rejecting the Jewish basis of Christianity via Odinism.

~~jwb~~ · 07-18-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Most of them are rejecting the Jewish basis of Christianity via Odinism.

Honestly there was this pagan dude in the program I assumed was a Nazi but it turned out he's not.

music_collector · 07-18-2022, 07:37 PM

I just posted a Dragnet reference in another thread. It's only fair that I visit a thread about pagans.

The Batlord · 07-19-2022, 06:33 AM

I choose Bacchus for reasons.

Psy-Fi · 07-19-2022, 07:19 AM

Pet_Sounds · 07-19-2022, 07:22 AM

I choose to worship the one true god, John Coltrane.

Trollheart · 07-19-2022, 07:29 AM

I get totally what you're talking about Guybrush. I always loved mythology - my favourite being Norse - but I never once considered the gods to be real. Same with Christianity: I love a lot of the stories from the Bible and so on, and historically it's been more or less proven that a man called Jesus did live in Nazareth at that time, but as for being the Son of God? Well, if he could perform all those miracles, why didn't he go into show business, answer me that!

So for me, I can appreciate the mythology, the stories and the figures in any "religion", but that's all they are. I can see how others might take them as literal, and if they do that's their prerogative, but not me.

Guybrush · 07-19-2022, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

historically it's been more or less proven that a man called Jesus did live in Nazareth at that time

Perhaps you can assume there was someone called Jesus in Nazareth much in the same way you can assume there's a person called Jesus living in New York today.. or Rupert or perhaps a Jeremiah. But there's little to no historical evidence for Jesus, the character described in the new testament.

F.ex. he wasn't documented during his supposed lifetime, despite roman historians documenting going-ons in the area at that time.

07-18-2022, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
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07-19-2022, 07:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I get totally what you're talking about Guybrush. I always loved mythology - my favourite being Norse - but I never once considered the gods to be real. Same with Christianity: I love a lot of the stories from the Bible and so on, and historically it's been more or less proven that a man called Jesus did live in Nazareth at that time, but as for being the Son of God? Well, if he could perform all those miracles, why didn't he go into show business, answer me that! So for me, I can appreciate the mythology, the stories and the figures in any "religion", but that's all they are. I can see how others might take them as literal, and if they do that's their prerogative, but not me. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-18-2022, 07:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
music_collector Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 744	I just posted a Dragnet reference in another thread. It's only fair that I visit a thread about pagans.