The Batlord

Then why say anything at all if you're not actually trying to change anybody's mind? What are you actually trying accomplish?

I fail to see how engaging in attention seeking behavior by constantly telling everybody who will listen about things you probably made up in your own head in the first place is revolutionary.

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Sansa Stark

That's cute, I didn't know I had it in me to write several books on gender identity, not to mention that I'm apparently immortal and came to invent non binary identities going back to ancient Egypt

go me!

GuitarBizarre

And of course this is where we immediately get into the part of the argument I mentioned before, where someone doesn't necessarily understand your position, but you still enter into a debate with them where you do nothing but belittle them and their lack of knowledge. In so doing, convincing nobody of anything, and only solidifying that person's opposition of your position.

You've literally just actively prevented Batlord from taking any part of your argument from this point on seriously, and encouraged him to be defensive and reject your ideas of gender identity in their entirety.

He has obviously learned so much from this.

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Sansa Stark

but it's okay for them to snidely tell me I made it up? lmao ok keep with the tone policing, GB.

GuitarBizarre

No, because I stated multiple times before, I'm onboard with your ideas. I think Batlord is wrong to reject them. This was already my evident position. I posted what I did in order to make clear that I won't back him up on this. But as much as I won't do that, I also won't make the claim to perfectly understand fluid gender identity to a degree sufficient to explain it to him.

Therefore the floor is yours, madam.

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WWWP

I never said I'm not trying to change anyone's mind - it's more that I'm not willing to argue with people who remain willfully ignorant on any given subject. Furthermore, I refuse to spend my time educating someone on an issue they don't know anything about in order to argue with them.. it's the age of information and I think it's the duty of individuals at large (circumstantial, of course) to utilize the resources available to them.

I'm talking day-to-day arguments here, btw, I exert a minimal amount of energy arguing ethics and lgbtq+ issues with your average forum-goer, I save that for my career in academia. However, like I said, I do revel in calling people out for being *******s.

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GuitarBizarre

Do you have any links that I could use to educate myself further about your position?

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WWWP

tumblr.com

kiekiekiekiekiekiekie

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Sansa Stark

I do:
GENDERQUEER AND NON-BINARY IDENTITIES

Hell Yeah, Agender!

AVENwiki

The Batlord

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that agenderism, aromanticism, etc don't exist. I'm saying that I think your desire to be the most interesting person in the room has caused you to think that you're all of these things, and yes I do think you sincerely believe at least some of it. I tend to assume that anyone making outrageous claims on the internet, not to mention the sheer amount of outrageous claims you've made, is lying, and your extreme attention seeking over the years has only reinforced my opinion. So yeah, I think you're full of ****.

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