Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

This was my thought exactly. Urban's an asshole but he's an asshole of the best variety - that doesn't mean that he doesn't take some getting used to and that doesn't mean that everyone should have to get used to him. I find it continuously amusing how people feel the need to defend his honor, a behavior I don't see replicated as feverishly in regards to other members.

I'm reminded here of my coworker Susanne. She's an old crotchety German woman with a feeling of entitlement because she's worked at our shop for ages. She is intelligent and witty and I enjoy being around her most of the time - as a person she has a lot to offer and is wholly interesting. She is hilariously rude to new employees and annoyingly rude to her superiors (myself included), but she gets away with it because "oh, that's just Susanne, you have to get used to her." She's good at what she does and the shop wouldn't be the same without her, but that doesn't change the fact that sometimes she's a fucking bitch.

Susanne is to my shop as Urban is to MB. He contributes to the forum immensely. It doesn't make him any less of a cunt.

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I love you, but you are ridiculously off axis with your assumption that everyone "defending" urban is actually defending him rather than defending the idea that expression should never be tailored to placate.

It doesn't matter if it's Urban, or JackPat (yea, I went there), or Hermoine, or Doctor Soft. An expression of opinion that supports theirs doesn't always have to mean you're just being a fan boy. It doesn't always mean you're being unreasonable and full of bias. Why people automatically gravitate to that assumption is beyond me, but I would be comfortable in the assumption that the causality behind such a phenomenon is cultural stupidity bleeding into interaction.

Either way, I dare any one of you to prove my intentions. Have fun. And when you realize that it's all just a bunch of assumptions, then you'll understand the value of evidence and why you have been disregarding it for the sake of your own perspectives.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

I understand that, but my assumptions are mostly based on a trend in behaviors. The first posts after JackPat's initial post were in defense of Urban, I don't think it was until my comment that the defense of opinion in general was part of the conversation. I think it's funny. A few months ago Ki started a ****storm for saying something about Urban and the moment I saw JackPat's post I guessed exactly what was to follow. I'm not calling anyone a fanboy, people are just amusingly fucking predictable.

I have no desire to prove or disprove your intentions, I was just making some observations (WHICH i HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO YOU COCK). There's no resolution to come from this, can we all just laugh now?

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I just want to marry you, so whatever you said up there... pshh... wasted effort.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.