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Old 05-19-2011, 01:53 PM   #381 (permalink)
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It's fiction.
Isn't tyler allowed to rap through through a character that hates everyone? And i mean everyone, he hates heterosexual men and women just as much.

I think the homophobic angle is being dramatized, he's young and immature still. Does nobody remember early eminem anymore?

I mean they're is a ****ing lesbian in OFWGKTA. Tyler isn't that intellectual,but i think it's pretty clear that he's joking; rapping from the mindset of a depressed, horney, frustrated teenager.

If you don't want homophobic music, you can't really listen to most of the rap genre in general.

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Old 05-19-2011, 02:55 PM   #382 (permalink)
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Personally I don't see a reason for mocking their view... They are gay women, I'd expect them to be offended by a large amount of Tyler's lyrics talking about 'faggots' and raping women. I'm not sure why anyone would have a problem with their view, honestly. If someone was getting national recognition and rapped about 'killing niggers' I imagine the black response would be highly critical and the black community would probably going apeshit about it. But I doubt anyone would mock them.
Precisely.

And it would be interesting to see how the black community would react if other people suddenly decided that "nigger" is now an acceptable term for something lame or stupid.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:02 PM   #383 (permalink)
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It's fiction.
Isn't tyler allowed to rap through through a character that hates everyone? And i mean everyone, he hates heterosexual men and women just as much.
Really? Does he hate black people and hispanics and jews? What would be the response of the general public if he started spewing hate against specific ethnic groups? What would happen if a white guy started rapping about "niggers"? Would we jump in his defense and try to pass it off as rapping through a character? Would anyone buy that? :\
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:27 PM   #384 (permalink)
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Really? Does he hate black people and hispanics and jews? What would be the response of the general public if he started spewing hate against specific ethnic groups? What would happen if a white guy started rapping about "niggers"? Would we jump in his defense and try to pass it off as rapping through a character? Would anyone buy that? :\
Well, he calls himself the "blackest skinhead" so i suppose you can interpret that however you want

He already has made fun of "wetbacks" and other minorities plenty, as well as religions.

I'm sure they're has been plenty of white "rappers" who have made racist songs, and look at how far it's gotten them.

I'm not going to argue hypothetical scenario's because thats stupid.
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:19 PM   #385 (permalink)
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Personally, i like him more just for saying **** kid cudi and bob, and wanting to stab bruno mars in his asophagus. It's all great stuff, and nobody else around is really being as open and direct.
Damn, when I heard those lyrics in "Yonkers" for the first time, the hugest smile went on my face. I hate B.o.b. and Bruno Mars so much, and hearing that was pure catharsis for me.
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:17 PM   #386 (permalink)
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Yes, let's all make a collective effort to decipher what this master of satire actually meant with his reply to the T&S post:



I'm sure he didn't actually mean to imply that what any lesbian really needs is a good hard dick. No, what he meant was actually to use this cliche to make fun of the stereotype. He was actually being subversive, amirte? My God, there's no end to this kid's intelligence...
are you fucking kidding me? that's blatant sarcasm. Yes, he's being subversive, as if a guy making a sarcastic joke about giving a lesbian some dick requires some high IQ to you.

OFWGKTA's music isn't intelligent, but it doesn't take intelligence to make sarcastic/satirical lyrics about rape and murder. If someone finds their lyrics sexist then it's all in their own interpretation.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:04 AM   #387 (permalink)
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It's fiction.
Isn't tyler allowed to rap through through a character that hates everyone? And i mean everyone, he hates heterosexual men and women just as much.

I think the homophobic angle is being dramatized, he's young and immature still. Does nobody remember early eminem anymore?

I mean they're is a ****ing lesbian in OFWGKTA. Tyler isn't that intellectual,but i think it's pretty clear that he's joking; rapping from the mindset of a depressed, horney, frustrated teenager.

If you don't want homophobic music, you can't really listen to most of the rap genre in general.
Amen.

Tyler is an atheist who only goes to church to sell coke and Led Zeppelin. He's here to piss you off. Insult his intelligence all you want and call him hateful all you want (well, he probably is), but that's all in his mental, which he proudly proclaims is ****ed up- his intelligence doesn't have to be the highest to make fresh music (for me, anyway).

Tyler probably preaches so much hate because he feels unwanted. He was abandoned by his father and alienated from his own black community, which he even gives a big fuck-you to. He literally doesn't give half a sh!t about anyone but, according to him, his mother. His aggression is all obviously psychosocial, yet also satirical and cathartic. His hateful messages aren't heartfelt, they're a mental release for him. If you don't appreciate it, fine. I'm still listening, and i'm still not raping women or killing homosexuals or my father or little green ski-masked midgets. But it do shout "SWAG" on random occasions.
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Old 05-20-2011, 12:11 AM   #388 (permalink)
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Old 05-20-2011, 04:40 AM   #389 (permalink)
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are you fucking kidding me? that's blatant sarcasm. Yes, he's being subversive, as if a guy making a sarcastic joke about giving a lesbian some dick requires some high IQ to you.

OFWGKTA's music isn't intelligent, but it doesn't take intelligence to make sarcastic/satirical lyrics about rape and murder. If someone finds their lyrics sexist then it's all in their own interpretation.
Wooow. Fascinating the lengths people can go through to see what they want to see. Because it's much more likely and so much more believable that a 19 year old rapper is a brilliant satirist, instead of just a provocative attention whoring dickhead. Truly amazing.
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it's unique, but can't say i like it
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