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[Dirty]

Originally Posted by matious

Because nobody is asking her to listen to it. All rap music is listened to by "impressionable" (oh my god, the poor children-what will they become!?!!) teens.

Just because nobody asked her to listen doesn't mean it's any less offensive to her. Odd Future has a considerably large following as and 'up and coming' rap group. So because Tyler didn't ask her to give them a listen, she shouldn't be offended? That's unbelievably stupid, please correct me if I'm interpreting you wrong.

These hypothetical scenarios as an argument for why odd future is wrong are so ****ing stupid you guys are getting me real life pissed off.

It's not about them being right or wrong, it's about why people in this thread have a problem with their comments. The hypothetical scenario is a great example and parallel to what we are talking about. If a white guy made a CD which featured a lot of lyrics about "killing niggers" I bet most of you wouldn't challenge the black community that got outraged and pissed off about it. I think you'd even go as far as to join in their opposition. Maybe because it's gay women, you're prejudice shows a little bit? I'm not suggesting, just wondering aloud. Because I think opinions would be very different if it were anti-black lyrics being spewed. And again, there's nothing wrong with that hypothetical.

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by Dirty

Just because nobody asked her to listen doesn't mean it's any less offensive to her. Odd Future has a considerably large following as and 'up and coming' rap group. So because Tyler didn't ask her to give them a listen, she shouldn't be offended? That's unbelievably stupid, please correct me if I'm interpreting you wrong.

Christianity has a huge following too. They're not that into homosexuality either, maybe she should go out of her way to pay attention to it and attack it.

It's not about them being right or wrong, it's about why people in this thread have a problem with their comments. The hypothetical scenario is a great example and parallel to whadt we are talking about. If a white guy made a CD which featured a lot of lyrics about "killing niggers" I bet most of you wouldn't challenge the black community that got outraged and pissed off about it. I think you'd even go as far as to join in their opposition.

It's not a great example because for it to work you have to assume that odd future's music is sincere and has an agenda, and we can both agree that this isn't the case.

Like i said last time this bullshit came up, is that their definetly has been racist rap before, and it didn't become popular because most people can tell the difference(maybe you cant)between dark satirical humor and and legit hate.

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Maybe because it's gay women, you're prejudice shows a little bit? I'm not suggesting, just wondering aloud. Because I think opinions would be very different if it were anti-black lyrics being spewed. And again, there's nothing wrong with that hypothetical.

dude c'mon, i'm not going to let you bait me like this. I love all my sista's equally.

[Dirty]

Originally Posted by matious

Christianity has a huge following too. They're not that into homosexuality either, maybe she should go out of her way to pay attention to it and attack it.

See here's my problem with this type of argument, it's like what they are saying is invalid because they aren't attacking every single group or person spewing anti-gay stuff?? Cmon man, if they posted a bunch of stuff opposing every group that is against gays, then the same people calling for that (you) would be mocking them for going out of there way to oppose all of these groups.

It's not a great example because for it to work you have to assume that odd future's music is sincere and has an agenda, and we can both agree that this isn't the case.

Yes we cna both agree, and I don't agree if T&S think they are dead serious. But I'm giving the hypothetic of a white guy making anti-black music as a 'character' and being insincere. I don't understand why it's totally ok to say it against gays or women but if someone attacked blacks, even sarcastically through lyrics, it'd still be a huge outrage don't ya think?

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by Dirty

See here's my problem with this type of argument, it's like what they are saying is invalid because they aren't attacking every single group or person spewing anti-gay stuff?? Cmon man, if they posted a bunch of stuff opposing every group that is against gays, then the same people calling for that (you) would be mocking them for going out of there way to oppose all of these groups.

Okay. My point is that their criticisms should be directed at the hip hop genre, not one particular artist who isn't even homophobic.

Yes we cna both agree, and I don't agree if T&S think they are dead serious. But I'm giving the hypothetic of a white guy making anti-black music as a 'character' and being insincere. I don't understand why it's totally ok to say it against gays or women but if someone attacked blacks, even sarcastically through lyrics, it'd still be a huge outrage don't ya think?

Well yeah. So would any ethnicity making fun of any other, I just don't see what this has to do with odd future. Odd Future isn't homophobic and your trying to make an analogy with a group that is racist.

You already have seen white artists like kreayshawn and her click use the n-word jokingly, and so far it hasn't been an issue, mostly because her demographic (similiar to tylers that is) gets the context, and understands it's not offensive.

[djchameleon]

Originally Posted by matious

You already have seen white artists like kreayshawn and her click use the n-word jokingly, and so far it hasn't been an issue, mostly because her demographic (similiar to tylers that is) gets the context, and understands it's not offensive.

speaking of kreayshawn do you happen to have her mixtape? if so, shoot me a PM.