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Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2005 04:19 AM

Yeah but diehard fans are annoying.

Just look at MB`s resident diehard guns n roses fan for how annoying diehard fans actually are ;)

boo boo 10-09-2005 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Yeah but diehard fans are annoying.

Just look at MB`s resident diehard guns n roses fan for how annoying diehard fans actually are ;)

Im a diehard Pink Floyd fan, im not annoying you am i? :(

dog 10-09-2005 06:23 AM

yo soy die hard beatles fan

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2005 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
Im a diehard Pink Floyd fan, im not annoying you am i? :(

Well no , you don`t go around claiming Pink Floyd invented modern music as we know it & every single band that ever existed owes them a debt of gratitude.

boo boo 10-09-2005 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Well no , you don`t go around claiming Pink Floyd invented modern music as we know it & every single band that ever existed owes them a debt of gratitude.


Thanks. =)

Merkaba 10-10-2005 01:57 AM

Cough draven cough...

Subtle?

I should hope not :)

pastor of muppets 10-10-2005 04:43 AM

thats as subtle as my love of penises

boo boo 10-10-2005 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastor of muppets
thats as subtle as my love of penises

o_O

DontRunMeOver 10-10-2005 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I`ve been called a lot of things in my life , This is probably the worst :(

Sorry for calling you a music journalist. Putting together lists of albums is a peculiar habit of music journalists/magazines. However, they do tend to describe the lists as 'Best' rather than 'Favourite' and over-emphasise context rather than content (as when they spend ages describing the importance of Stevie Wonder for artistic emancipation and fail to point out any good tunes, riffs or lyrics - the things that can actually be found on the albums).

Your list doesn't do this, in fact its pretty darn great. I'll make sure that next time I'm looking to invest in some albums I consult this list first!:clap:

DontRunMeOver 10-10-2005 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastor of muppets
thats as subtle as my love of penises

Maybe he loves tiger penises, as a foodstuff? They improve your manly virility, so I've heard.

pastor of muppets 10-11-2005 02:22 AM

^ no, i just love penises

DontRunMeOver 10-11-2005 04:59 AM

You love Tiger penises too though?

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 12:28 PM

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I cut around 30 or so albums for the final 100. So I added a few more & made 101 - 150.
The one band one album rule still applies , so if a band is on this list they won`t have an album in the 40 or so places i`ve yet to fill out in the 100 list.


101 Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R
102 Fourtet - Rounds
103 Thin Lizzy - Bad Reputation
104 Happy Mondays - Thrills Pills & Bellyache
105 Jonathan Fire Eater - Wolf Songs For Lambs
106 Bob Dylan - Desire
107 Jimi Hendrix - Axis Bold As Love
108 The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
109 Death In Vegas - The Contino Sessions
110 Supergrass - In It For The Money
111 Television - Marquee Moon
112 Mr Scruff - Trouser Jazz
113 Badly Drawn Boy - About A Boy
114 Big Star - Radio City
115 Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables
116 Prince - Sign O The Times
117 Elastica - Elastica
118 Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarietransmissionplot
119 The Specials - The Specials
120 Dandy Warhols - 13 Tales From Urban Bohemia
121 T-Rex - Electric Warrior
122 Ash - 1977
123 Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
124 At The Drive In - Relationship Of Command
125 Velvet Underground - Loaded
126 Galaxie 500 - On Fire
127 Sebadoh - Bubble & Scrape
128 Neil Young - After The Goldrush
129 The Breeders - Last Splash
130 The Jam - All Mod Cons
131 Kiss - Rock n Roll Over
132 Poison Idea -Feel The Darkness
133 Cat Stevens - Teaser & The Firecat
134 Ramones - End Of The Century
135 Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
136 Love - Forever Changes
137 The Delta 72 - 000
138 Urge Overkill - Saturation
139 Leftfield - Rythmn & Stealth
140 The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
141 Acoustic Ladyland - Last Chance Disco
142 Charlatans - Wonderland
143 Sugar - Copper Blue
144 Lou Reed - Transformer
145 Van Halen - Van Halen
146 Funkadelic - One Nation Under A Groove
147 Patti Smith - Horses
148 Scott Walker - 4
149 Deep Purple - Machine Head
150 Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream

tdoc210 10-11-2005 12:32 PM

kinda confused urban the monger of hate

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 12:35 PM

Whats confusing?

sleepy jack 10-11-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Whats confusing?

The unseen isnt on there!! DUH!!

adidasss 10-11-2005 12:53 PM

so rated r, which you rated 4.5 is 101st? so all those albums in the top 100 are 4.5 or higher?......all of them?

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 12:58 PM

I like it a lot , it`s just i`ve not really listened to it much lately , which is why it`s a bit low.

Besides you asked me to rate it compared to Songs For The Deaf , not other bands.

adidasss 10-11-2005 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
I like it a lot , it`s just i`ve not really listened to it much lately , which is why it`s a bit low.

Besides you asked me to rate it compared to Songs For The Deaf , not other bands.

no i didn't, i asked you to rate the albums in general, and you said that songs for the deaf is 4.4 and rated r is 4.5.....

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss
no i didn't, i asked you to rate the albums in general, and you said that songs for the deaf is 4.4 and rated r is 4.5.....

There`s no arguement to this , that was what I interpreted your question to be and thats how it was answered. If I was wrong in that interpretation then i`m wrong , end of story.

adidasss 10-11-2005 02:08 PM

so how would you rate those 2 albums in general?

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 02:11 PM

They`re in my 2nd pile of CDs which is my 'listen to occasionally' pile

adidasss 10-11-2005 02:21 PM

ah, but that doesn't answer my question

anticipation 10-11-2005 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Well no , you don`t go around claiming Pink Floyd invented modern music as we know it & every single band that ever existed owes them a debt of gratitude.


7h47s cu2 3v3r0n3 kn0w5 7h47s 8l1nk 182 d1d!

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gentleman Johnny
7h47s cu2 3v3r0n3 kn0w5 7h47s 8l1nk 182 d1d!

You`re right , why bother with the rest lets go straight to No 1

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01 Blink 182 - Take Off Your Pants And Jacket

OMG OMG OMG this rules , If you don`t like this then you suck. Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd , Miles Davis , they all wish they could make an album this good. The Who totally ripped off the idea for Tommy by listening to 'The Rock Show' and if you don`t think this is true then you can suck my ****.All of you who say Blink 182 are crap can kiss my ass because you have no taste.

Favourite Songs - All of them , in fact the songs on this album make my entire list redundant. I`m going to burn my entire CD collection & only listen to this for the rest of my life.

anticipation 10-11-2005 03:02 PM

god i hate them...

tdoc210 10-11-2005 04:36 PM

yay the blink 182 sucks thread would be nice but we cant cause there be this argument and bannings and......................

tdoc210 10-11-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
The unseen isnt on there!! DUH!!

misfits i hardly listen to them it was just nevermind i was nt payin attention

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-14-2005 02:56 PM

Into the top 40....

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40. Roxy Music - Roxy Music (1972)

I remember John Peel once saying 'The early 1970s were kinda boring , except for Roxy Music'.And he had a point. There were no overlong wanky solos here or your boring blues influenced c0ck rock that a million & one bands were churning out at the time. The great thing about Roxy Music was that they were fresh , they were totally new & different & beyond classification because threw all their influences together & created a sound that nobody then or since has sounded anything like .But above all they were FUN.The great thing about this album is the tension between Brian Eno pulling one way & Bryan Ferry pulling his way, It really makes the album. You have Ferry trying to pull the band into his smooth lounge lizard style one way & Eno with all his weirdy synthisizer effects pulling in the opposite way. Of course it would never last & Eno finally upped & left to do his own thing (Joined by everybody in Roxy Music except Ferry ironically enough). They only ever recorded 2 albums with Eno (This one & For Your Pleasure)and they made one good record without him (Stranded)But after that Roxy Music slid down the slippery slope to Ferry`s middle of the road soft rock hell. Still at least they had this album.

Favourite Songs - Remodel/Remake , 2HB , Virginia Plains , Ladytron

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39. PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (2000)

I love this album , probably because it was the best thing she`d done in ages. I liked her first couple of albums, but it was probably her album of demos for the Rid Of Me that really got me hooked. But then she seemed to slump & her next couple of albums were a huge disapointment.And then just as i`m thinking she`s on her way out , she comes out with this little beauty & restores my faith in her. There`s an energy about this album that she had with her first couple but the songs & the production are far better. The first 2 songs on the album just blew me away and the rest of them kept me interested right until the end. Something I can`t say of the 2 albums that preceeded this one. She won the Mercury music prize for this one. In reality not one of the other nominations could touch this.

Favourite Songs - Big Exit , Good Fortune , This Mess We`re In (With Thom Yorke) , Kamikaze

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38. The Fall - Live At The Witch Trials (1979)

Ah-ha , there was always going to be an album by the Fall on this list , the question was always going to be which one. I decided to go for the one that started it all.I will put my cards on the table right now & say that Mark E Smith is a real hero of mine. In an industry full of hangers on , bullsh*tters , and talentless idiots who sell music with their looks & expensive videos on MTV, Mark E Smith is a breath of fresh air.He reminds me of the miserable old bloke you see in the pub permenently pissed & mouthing off about anything & everything.He does what he wants , says what he wants , he once fired his own wife from the band , another time he decided he would do a gig by himself & locked his entire band in the dressing room for 2 hours while he performed.The Falls music itself changes like the weather. On this album you have Mark snarling & drawling his vocals over your typical lo fi punk rock but with an electric piano added to give the music a totally different dimension. Sometimes you wonder if you`re listening to a rock album or a gameshow theme, totally weird. A million or so albums down the line Mark is still putting out music and still hiring & firing members like they`re going out of fashion , their last album was still just as aggressive & as uncompromising as this was 25 years ago. God bless the old bugger.

Favourite Songs - Frightened , Rebellious Jukebox , Mother/Sister , Music Scene

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37. Gorkys Zygotic Mynci - Barafundle (1997)

So around 8 or 9 years ago i`m sitting at home at around 3am with the TV on in the background wondering if I should go to bed , then all of a sudden I hear this great song. It`s melodic , it`s quirky , it`s fun & I can`t understand a bloody word the lead singer is saying. I keep watching & i`m told the song is called If Fingers Were Xylophones by the Welsh band Gorkys Zygotic Mynci and that their Bwyd Time album as well as the single was available. So far so good. I look for it , and look , and look and look.....And nothing. In fact I STILL don`t own that album , but at least I now have the song.Then a couple of years later I read they have signed to a major lable and had an album out I rushed to get it......and it was wonderful. I still couldn`t understand a word of it , but half the songs were in welsh anyway.But that didn`t matter. This is the perfect summer record. Laid back , gentle & soothing folk music done with a modern twist . They may have had their ups & downs after this (Their next album Gorkys 5 was terrible , so terrible in fact the record company dropped them) but they are always one band I rush out to buy when they have something new out.

Favourite Songs - Diamond Dew , Patio Song , Starmoonsun , Cursed Coined & Crucified

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-15-2005 07:12 PM

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36. The Sleepy Jackson - Lovers (2003)

My favourite album from 2003 and it came from out of nowhere. I`d bought their mini album the previous year & didn`t really think much of it, In fact I only bought this album because I`d heard the first single 'Good Dancers' off it and was impressed with it , plus I could get it for £2. When I listened to it I was awestruck at what I was hearing. This wasn`t the lackluster indie band i`d heard the previous year. This was a guy spreading his songwriting wings incorperating rock , country , pop & electronica. The album opener Good Dancers is almost operatic with lashings of lush strings & female harmonies which gives way to the driving guitar rock of the next song Vampire Racecourse , with Luke Steele virtually spitting out the lyrics , then there`s the laid back country of Rain Falls For The Wind.And quite honestly you never know what you`re going to get next. I only hope he can get it all together for another album , Luke Steele`s drinking has been compared to Bon Scott proportions.

Favourite Songs - Good Dancers , Vampire Racecourse , Rain Falls For Wind , Come To This

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35. Led Zeppelin - Presence (1976)

I`ve no idea why this album has such a bad rap. I can understand why it isn`t liked as much as say the first 4 albums or Physical Graffiti , it`s not your typical bombastic macho posturing that Led Zeppelin became famous & if you are a Led Zep fan for that reason then this probably isn`t the best Led Zep album. But even with my macho pusturing Led Zep hat on i`d still say that In Thru The Out Door & Houses Of The Holy are much worse than this album.So Plant`s vocals are not technically brilliant on this album , who the hell cares , no other Led Zeppelin album had this much feeling in it.
Anyway I love this album because it doesn`t have all that. This is a wounded Led Zep, at their most vunerable , a band that were not even sure if there would be a band for much longer & I think it`s compelling listening. This is probably the most personal album they made & i`d much rather hear songs like that than songs about Valhalla or all that mystical bollocks.This album contains the best song Plant & Page ever wrote in Tea For One , I don`t care what anyone says this runs rings around Stairway & is a much more mature & poignant , written about Plant`s lonliness on tour due to Page`s heroin addiction & Bonzo partying & Jones keeping himself to himself. Almost 10 mins long but I never get bored of hearing it. And just in case you are in any doubt , there`s Achilles Last Stand just to prove that there`s life in the old dog yet and a great cover of Otis Reddings Nobodies Fault But Mine . Not the best Led Zeppelin album , but still my favourite.

Favourite Songs - Achilles Last Stand , Royal Orleans , Nobody`s Fault But Mine , Tea For One

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34. UNKLE - Psyence Fiction (1998)

Usually you stick a bunch of people together & do a load of collaberations it comes out as one big mess. This album shouldn`t work , but it does. On this album you have (Deep breath) The Beastie Boys , Badly Drawn Boy ,Kool G Rap , Richard Ashcroft ,Alice Temple , Jason Newstead & Thom Yorke. And thats not counting the the people that didn`t get as far as appearing on the album (Ian Brown, Bobby Gillespie & Josh Homme). But the true talent behind this album is DJ Shadow. The songs themselves does not just have appearences by other artists , they sound like those artists. The Drums Of Death sounds like a Beastie Boys song , Lonely Souls sounds like a Verve song , Rabbit In Your Headlights sounds like a Radiohead song , but it`s a testament to DJ Shadows talent that he puts all these peices together & makes an album that flows together & despite all the different genres on show it all flows along nicely & nothing seems out of place, You can have the Beastie Boys doing a full on rap alongside a Thom Yorke piano driven ballad, and it works. The highlight of the album is Rabbit In Your Headlights with Thom Yorke , the best song on the album by a mile & probably the best Radiohead song there never was. James Lavelle attempted another UNKLE album a few years later , it had everything this album had with one exception. DJ Shadow wasn`t involved. It was awful.

Favourite Songs - Guns Blasing , Bloodstone , Lonely Soul , Rabbit In Your Headlights

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33. XTC - English Settlement (1982)

One of the things that has surprised me is when talking to some of my American friends about music just how many of them like this band.They`ve never been big over there as far as I know yet they seem to have a lot more popularity over there at the moment than they do here. XTC in my opinion were probably the best band of the post punk era , mixing intelligent lyrics with wonderful catchy hooks. I guess you`d call it punk pop now , but I think musically they are well above that level. This album was a kind of transitional album moving away from that sound & focusing more on an almost folkish sound. There`s a lot of acoustic guitar on this album but it`s done with rock style bass & drums so there`s still plenty of moments to nod your head to. This album contains one of my favourite songs ever in Senses Working Overtime , one of my earliest musical memories as a child , again it`s an acoustic song but with pumping bass & drums almost giving in an anthemic quality to it.With all the bands from the 1980s seemingly getting a re-evaluation influencing todays bands I really hope someone stands up & gives this lot some much deserved credit.

Favourite Songs - Senses Working Overtime , Ball & Chain , Jason & The Argonauts , No Thugs In Our House

TheBig3 10-16-2005 09:35 AM

This is getting pretty good. Your reviewrs are at the very least informative so that if you had always wondered about a song, you could get better insight. Nice work Urban.

right-track 10-28-2005 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
This is getting pretty good. Nice work Urban.

And i agree!

I'd like to see urban come back and at the least finish 'The Urban 100'. :thumb:

dog 11-15-2005 06:20 AM

yea is he ever gonna finish this? im amazed he could be stuffed doing all that hes done so far.

Merkaba 11-15-2005 12:44 PM

Well since he's not coming back...

dog 11-16-2005 03:17 AM

why isnt he here?

boo boo 11-16-2005 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledzeppelinrulz
why isnt he here?

Misfits told me he got pissed at someone and just left, thats all i remember.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 11-16-2005 04:01 AM

If his Ask Urban thread is still around, you can read that, that'll explain it all... But he'll prolly be back at some point, 'pparently he has stuff goin on with his family at the mo. Anyways, we can carry this on 'till he's back :)

idowhatiamtold 11-16-2005 07:40 AM

goood luck man... I tried doing that once, and it drove me crazy. :banghead:

right-track 12-25-2005 10:26 AM

*bump*

Imonlydancing 12-25-2005 10:35 AM

He's back.
:]


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