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Wpnfire 04-01-2014 02:44 PM

Electronica & EDM combination album club! ® (Whew!)
 
À la Trollheart, I will steal someone else's idea and create the electronica album club!

If you are unfamiliar with Trollheart's Progressive Rock Album Club, the basic gist of this thread is that a member will nominate an album, we will dismiss for a week or so to listen to it and fill out our questionnaires, and then regroup a week or something after that to talk about it.
Then we will move on to the next member, etc...

This post will contain all relevant information for the club.


All electronic music genres are valid.


We will use this for the order we will go in, starting with me.
  1. Wpnfire
  2. Janszoon
  3. Briks
  4. YorkeDaddy
  5. djChameleon
  6. Goofle11
  7. Zer0
  8. Frownland
  9. Vanilla
  10. Deviouz
  11. Black Francis
  12. Rjinn
  13. jackhammer
  14. Silenzio


If you want to join, just leave a post in this thread telling me you are interested.


Instructions for selecting an album

When it is your turn to pick, you may select any electronica album and post the album title and artist, (preferably with a picture of the album cover) along with a short, one or two sentence description about the artist's background.
It is not necessary to post any other information about the album, as its musical composition can be discovered by members listening to the album, obviously.
Again, all electronic music genres are valid.



Questions

The following is the list of questions that should answered by members while, or after listening to the album selected. The completed questionnaires will be used for discussion purposes.
NOTE: There is no length requirement for any of your answers.
1. What were your VERY FIRST impressions on listening to the album, say from the first five minutes in (first time)?
2. Did your first impressions change, i.e., did the album get better or worse as you listened to it (first time)?
3. Which was stronger in your opinion, the opening tracks (first 2-3 songs), or the ending tracks (last 2-3 songs)?
4. On repeated listens (if you did so), did you find you liked the album more, or less? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.
5. What is your favorite track from the album, if you have one?
6. What is your least favorite track from the album, if you have one?
7. Did you change your favorite or least favorite track as you listened to the album?
8. How would you describe the variety of tracks available on this album? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.
9. What is the overall mood on this album?
10. Is this an album you would listen to again all the way through (for personal, recreational use, outside of listening to it for this club), or are there just a few songs that you would listen to?
11. How well do you already know the band/artist?
12. If you are familiar with this band/artist, how would you compare this album to any of their earlier/later material?
13. Do you see any way the album could have been improved?
14. Would you recommend this album to others?
15. Are you interested in listening to more albums by this band?
16. What sub-genre, if any, would you assign this music to?
17. (NOTE: Ignore this question if the album does not have lyrics.) Did you like the vocalist? Hate him/her? Any impressions?
18. Your overall album rating on a scale of 1-10 (whole numbers please. Also, please BOLD or otherwise make this rating easy to see. Use this color pattern for ratings:

12345678910
)?


ENTIRELY OPTIONAL QUESTIONS
19. What do you think of the production?
20. Any other thoughts you had about this album you would like to share?

Janszoon 04-01-2014 02:46 PM

I'm in!

Isbjørn 04-01-2014 02:56 PM

Sure, I'm in. Not sure how active I'll be, but surely I can make time for this once in a while.

YorkeDaddy 04-01-2014 02:56 PM

I'm definitely in.

djchameleon 04-01-2014 03:58 PM

I am horrible with keeping up with clubs unless I am running it but I will listen and give my input.

The Cake Is A Lie

Goofle 04-01-2014 04:05 PM

I'm also going to say I am in.

Wpnfire 04-01-2014 07:50 PM

Well, that's more than four people!

I'll see tomorrow where we stand in members, I know Mondo Bungle said he would be interested...


I've spent hours tirelessly looking through Trollheart's thread and thinking of things on my own, (by the way trollheart, thanks for letting me copy your thread), about the best way for this club to work. This is what I've come up with:
  • Every member gets a turn to pick an album, and we will cycle through who gets to pick next.
  • The only qualification for an album is that the artist should not be TOO popular. (Or if it's a popular artist, an unpopular album also would suffice) I plan on not being too strict with this rule.
  • Music-wise, the albums CAN be entirely instrumental, given that a large amount of electronic music is without vocals (we can discuss this, of course)
  • We will dismiss to listen to the album and fill out a small questionnaire.
  • We will return and discuss the album and post our completed questionnaires.
  • The questionnaire will most likely be the same from the prog club, though I will of course make some personal changes due to the difference between electronica and prog.


It probably makes sense for me to start by declaring which album we will listen to first, but I just realized how difficult this will be!!

While I have some ideas for the album I would like to do, I have NO idea how you all can listen to albums without buying them. I've checked, and all of the albums I was thinking of are not available on Youtube (and I don't own them).

The only one I've thought of that we could listen to would be Effiel 65's Europop album, but I'm not entirely sure that this is an electronic album, or merely a pop album?? What do you guys think does that count? I doubt anybody has listened to that album aside from that one song.

I've also considered an album by Moby, though he may be too popular...

I may delegate someone else to declare the first album if I can't find anything that fits.


Also, you maybe able to tell that I don't know much about electronic music outside of the dance and house scene.

Also, also, this is a good time to discuss something else I did not mention in my first post. Everyone is well aware that this thread includes ALL genres of electronic music correct?

Everything from dance, house, techno, drum and bass, and all of the sub-genres are all fair game. The only exception would probably be ambience and dubstep, though I can't see that becoming an issue. We can decided on dubstep, I'm still not too sure about that.

I don't know if I made that clear in my first post.

Janszoon 04-01-2014 07:53 PM

Why wouldn't we include ambient?

Wpnfire 04-01-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1434605)
Why wouldn't we include ambient?

Oh, I just assumed it wouldn't be interesting enough for everybody else. I listen to ambient stuff all the time, and I don't have a problem with that if you all want to do it.

Like I said, we can talk about it. :)


As long as there's enough variety, ambience and dubstep oriented albums are both fine.

Zer0 04-02-2014 06:17 AM

I'm in if you completely drop the restrictions on ambient and dubstep.

Frownland 04-02-2014 08:54 AM

I'll join because I don't know too much about the genre. I agree on dropping the restrictions.

Isbjørn 04-02-2014 10:04 AM

I think ambient would be very interesting, so I agree with the last couple of posters

Wpnfire 04-02-2014 12:18 PM

*Update 2* – Questionnaire, Members list
 
Well, alright then, I'll remove the restrictions. All genres are fair game.




I have compiled a list of members and completed a very rough questionnaire. I will post both here now, and I will (try) to keep the current copy of both the member list, and questionnaire in the first post of this thread, which can be found here.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1434396)
First post can be found here.


YorkeDaddy 04-02-2014 07:05 PM

Well alright then, it all looks good to me. Let's get this shit started.

djchameleon 04-02-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1434966)
Well alright then, it all looks good to me. Let's get this shit started.

to get it started.

Start throwing out suggestions for the first album that we review.

Sub Focus - S/t
Bassnectar - Underground Communication
Mat Zo - Damage Control

Wpnfire 04-02-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1435029)
to get it started.

Start throwing out suggestions for the first album that we review.

Sub Focus - S/t
Bassnectar - Underground Communication
Mat Zo - Damage Control

I was reading through the early stages of Trollheart's prog. thread, and it appeared that the thread actually died in the early stages because the album nominations were too tedious.

The way the prog. club is run now is that every member gets a turn to pick an album for the group to listen to.

I think we should run this thread the same way, though I am fine with someone else possibly coming up with the first album as I am still searching for a suitable album we all can listen to.

Frownland 04-02-2014 10:26 PM

Some more suggestions

Oneohtrix Point Never - Replica
Eno, Moebius, Roedelius - After the Heat (kind of electronic)
Jon Hassell - Aka/Darbari/Java: Magic Realism

djchameleon 04-02-2014 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435032)
I was reading through the early stages of Trollheart's prog. thread, and it appeared that the thread actually died in the early stages because the album nominations were too tedious.

Well we can do it differently instead of having a separate thread for voting on albums. Get suggestions from everyone and then since you are leading it. put them into a list and use a number randomizer out of the total suggestions and let faith decide.

Goofle 04-03-2014 04:21 AM

I'd prefer to see Wpnfire picking an album. Then Jans, Briks, YD and so on. Much easier than this recommendation rigmarole.

YorkeDaddy 04-03-2014 08:23 AM

Well it seemed like Wpnfire didn't really know where to start when picking his own album so now he has a few ideas at least!

Janszoon 04-03-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1435082)
I'd prefer to see Wpnfire picking an album. Then Jans, Briks, YD and so on. Much easier than this recommendation rigmarole.

I agree. Keeps things moving along that way.

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 10:43 AM

Eiffel 65 – Contact | circa. 2000
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1435082)
Much easier than this recommendation rigmarole.

Rigmarole?


Anyway,

If there's no objections, I declare this to be our first album.


Click on the picture for the full album YouTube link. The Contact! album starts at precisely 1:06:00, (that's an hour and six minutes). The songs are moderately good quality.


I chose Contact! because the album is overshadowed due to the group's earlier album and debut album, Europop. While Eiffel 65 is a relatively known artist, this album is relatively unknown.
Unlike it's predecessor, Contact! was not NEARLY as successful internationally. The album is a marked departure from their earlier material as the band appears to be influenced by the exploding French House scene.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...65_contact.jpg

If anybody has already heard this, we will probably do that Replica album.

YorkeDaddy 04-03-2014 01:20 PM

I recognized their song "Blue" because pretty much everyone has heard that song, but that's it. I'm downloading "Contact" now, I'll post my impressions using your outline pretty soon.

Goofle 04-03-2014 01:54 PM

I think we should go through the rigmarole of recommending albums... :o:

Janszoon 04-03-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1435285)
I think we should go through the rigmarole of recommending albums... :o:

:laughing:

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 02:38 PM

I think all members should plan to have their questionnaires posted here by April 9.

I understand that's plenty of time, but I'm out of town for a few days, and I thought we should give more people time to join since this thread only began two days ago.

Janszoon, I believe you will be the next to pick, and considering the unreliability of finding an album on YouTube, if you need me to buy the album you are considering, I can do so and send it to the rest of the members.

YorkeDaddy 04-03-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435297)
I think all members should plan to have their questionnaires posted here by April 9.

I understand that's plenty of time, but I'm out of town for a few days, and I thought we should give more people time to join since this thread only began two days ago.

Also, YorkeDaddy, I may tweak the questionnaire so you should hold on posting it for at least a day or so.


Janszoon, I believe you will be the next to pick, and considering the unreliability of finding an album on YouTube, if you need me to buy the album you are considering, I can do so and send it to the rest of the members.

Finding ways to get albums through other methods is a very valuable skill, my friend.

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1435302)
Finding ways to get albums through other methods is a very valuable skill, my friend.

Feel like sharing your secrets? You say downloading so what, torrents?

Goofle 04-03-2014 02:59 PM

I specialize in not paying for music.

Janszoon 04-03-2014 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435297)
Janszoon, I believe you will be the next to pick, and considering the unreliability of finding an album on YouTube, if you need me to buy the album you are considering, I can do so and send it to the rest of the members.

In previous music clubs on MB people have generally just found the albums on their own. Members here generally have their own preferred ways of finding music, whether it's Spotify, torrents or whatever. It's only when someone's really having trouble tracking something down that anyone needs to step in and help them out.

It's funny, YouTube is such an inconvenient way for me to listen to albums that I sometimes forget other people use it for that.

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1435306)
In previous music clubs on MB people have generally just found the albums on their own. Members here generally have their own preferred ways of finding music, whether it's Spotify, torrents or whatever. It's only when someone's really having trouble tracking something down that anyone needs to step in and help them out.

It's funny, YouTube is such an inconvenient way for me to listen to albums that I sometimes forget other people use it for that.

Oh yeah I know that. YorkeDaddy said he was downloading that album, and I'm pretty sure you can't download from Spotify so I was just curious what he was using.

Goofle 04-03-2014 03:43 PM

It's pretty hard to ask "You seriously don't know about downloading music on the internet?" without sounding condescending so I'll just admit to it in this post.

YorkeDaddy 04-03-2014 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435328)
Oh yeah I know that. YorkeDaddy said he was downloading that album, and I'm pretty sure you can't download from Spotify so I was just curious what he was using.

I use torrents. Unless you're searching for super-obscure stuff, basically everything you could ever want to listen to is really easy to find on some of the bigger torrent sites.

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1435329)
It's pretty hard to ask "You seriously don't know about downloading music on the internet?" without sounding condescending so I'll just admit to it in this post.

Are you disparaging me because I don't know how to download music illegally?

lulz.

I also don't know where I would find drugs if I wanted to buy them either.

YorkeDaddy 04-03-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435388)
Are you disparaging me because I don't know how to download music illegally?

lulz.

I also don't know where I would find drugs if I wanted to buy them either.

Bro, there's a tremendously high chance that there's a drug dealer within like half a mile of where you live. Downloading music and buying drugs are very easy things to do.

Wpnfire 04-03-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1435392)
Bro, there's a tremendously high chance that there's a drug dealer within like half a mile of where you live. Downloading music and buying drugs are very easy things to do.

Sorry, I was just mad because Goofle appeared to insult me with no provocation.



Look all I'm saying is, if anybody needs help finding an album for this club, we'll help you do that.

Goofle 04-03-2014 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1435413)
Sorry, I was just mad because Goofle appeared to insult me with no provocation.

Come off it.

Cuthbert 04-03-2014 07:37 PM

lol

Goofle 04-04-2014 08:13 AM

What were your VERY FIRST impressions on listening to the album, say from the first five minutes in (first time)?

"Why God why?".

Did your first impressions change, i.e., did the album get better or worse as you listened to it (first time)?

It didn't necessarily get better or worse. It's the same sort of thing all the way through, so maybe I started to dislike it more due to repetition?

Which was stronger in your opinion, the opening tracks (first 2-3 songs), or the ending tracks (last 2-3 songs)?

Though it contradicts with my previous answer, I actually preferred the last 5/6 tracks more than the first.

On repeated listens (if you did so), did you find you liked the album more, or less? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.

I did not listen again.

What is your favorite track from the album, if you have one?

"Back In Time"

What is your least favorite track from the album, if you have one?

"Crazy"

Did you change your favorite or least favorite track as you listened to the album?

I think I could have changed that opinion regularly to be honest.

How would you describe the variety of tracks available on this album? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.

The variety is basically non-existent.

What is the overall mood on this album?

Plastic smiles?

Is this an album you would listen to again all the way through (for personal, recreational use, outside of listening to it for this club), or are there just a few songs that you would listen to?

No.

How well do you already know the band/artist?

I know them because of "Blue" and "Move Your Body", both of which aren't on here unfortunately.

If you are familiar with this band/artist, how would you compare this album to any of their earlier/later material?

Those two songs are miles better than anything on here.

Do you see any way the album could have been improved?

Yes, as I didn't like it much. It's too fake and bouncy, without being particularly catchy.

Would you recommend this album to others?

Nope.

Are you interested in listening to more albums by this band?

Nope.

What sub-genre, if any, would you assign this music to?

Euro-pop/Electro-pop.

Your overall album rating on a scale of 1-10 (whole numbers please. Also, please BOLD or otherwise make this rating easy to see)?

2/10

Did you like the vocalist? Hate him/her? Any impressions?

I didn't hate him but I certainly didn't like him.

What did you think of the lyrical content?

Probably would have been better without lyrics.

Were there any songs where you thought the repeated vocals were annoying?

1 through 17.

Did any of the remixes of the songs change your view of the original songs (i.e., did you like the remix version better, worse)?

To be honest, I didn't listen to the remixes on here (that were available on the Spotify version).

What do you think of the production?

Far too clean and sticky.

Any other thoughts you had about this album you would like to share?

It's good to know people with such little talent can make money off making music.

YorkeDaddy 04-04-2014 05:28 PM

  1. What were your VERY FIRST impressions on listening to the album, say from the first five minutes in (first time)?

    Solid production, decently catchy, but I hate the vocalist and how simple all the dance beats/synths are. Nothing is catching my attention at all.

  2. Did your first impressions change, i.e., did the album get better or worse as you listened to it (first time)?

    Not really, the album is WAAAAAAAY WAY WAY WAY WAY TOO LONG. This is a point I will probably be stressing in the rest of the questions too.

  3. Which was stronger in your opinion, the opening tracks (first 2-3 songs), or the ending tracks (last 2-3 songs)?

    The songs were so uninteresting and similar that I honestly cannot differentiate any of the songs off the top of my head in any way. Also this is the most pointlessly long album I've ever heard. Just thought I'd mention that again.

  4. On repeated listens (if you did so), did you find you liked the album more, or less? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.

    I don't really want to listen to it again tbh :/

    (Mostly because of the length)

  5. What is your favorite track from the album, if you have one?

    "King of Lullaby" was pretty solid, actually.

  6. What is your least favorite track from the album, if you have one?

    "One Goal" might be one of the worst songs I've ever heard.

  7. Did you change your favorite or least favorite track as you listened to the album?

    No, I knew pretty much right away that "One Goal" was really, really bad and that "King of Lullaby" was one of the most interesting, solid tracks I was gonna get.
  8. How would you describe the variety of tracks available on this album? Feel free to be very detailed if you like.


    Oh god, there basically is no variety whatsoever. Be ready for some of the most cookie cutter boyband electropop you've ever heard.

  9. What is the overall mood on this album?

    Um, dance-y
  10. Is this an album you would listen to again all the way through (for personal, recreational use, outside of listening to it for this club), or are there just a few songs that you would listen to?

    I don't plan on listening to this again the whole way through ever again for the rest of my life.

  11. How well do you already know the band/artist?

    Not at all besides "Blue (Da Ba Dee)".

  12. If you are familiar with this band/artist, how would you compare this album to any of their earlier/later material?

    N/A

  13. Do you see any way the album could have been improved?

    Get Lauren Mayberry to sing instead. Come up with more interesting melodies, use anything besides the most basic foundational trance synths that exist.

  14. Would you recommend this album to others?

    Not unless they really enjoy simple dance music.

  15. Are you interested in listening to more albums by this band?

    Nope.

  16. What sub-genre, if any, would you assign this music to?

    Dance pop.

  17. Your overall album rating on a scale of 1-10 (whole numbers please. Also, please BOLD or otherwise make this rating easy to see)?

    3/10 is the best I can do.


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