Smoking in Bars/Public Places? Yea or Nay?

boo boo · 01-28-2010, 09:15 PM

In bars sure, but for restaurants smoking sections or outdoor sections should be required, except maybe diners, they often have funs running and it's not that much of a bother.

**Janszoon** · 01-28-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

In bars sure, but for restaurants smoking sections or outdoor sections should be required, except maybe diners, they often have funs running and it's not that much of a bother.

I love it when the funs are running.

Cadrian · 01-28-2010, 09:29 PM

I come from an entire family of smokers..... And I can count out of the 10 or 15 really close friends only 1 doesnt smoke. With that said I feel like I know where they are coming from.

I started smoking myself when I turned 19.... I use to get drunk and found smoking comforting for when I was a drunk and bored. It turned into a pack a day for about 6months. Then I got the worse sinus infection I have ever gotten in my entire life that spread into my lungs to make pneumonia felt like I had one lung that was the size of cellphone, I quit smoking as I lay in the parklot of my work not able to make it to my car. Took me about 2 weeks to just be able to do normal things and about 1 month or more to get back to normal.

I havent had anything like it since... I have had some sinus problems but nothing to it *Knocks on wood* I cant be 100% sure it was the cigerettes, but thats all it took.

Now.... I think every person should have their own right to do whatever they want to themselves. But I can tell when I been hanging out with smokers. Its in my cloths its in my hair, it changes the taste of my food. If I party with my friends I sometimes wake up blowing my nose and smoke filled snot comes out. **** that.

Now with that said.... I realized a long time ago, if i dont allow smoking a decent spot at my house my friend and family dont come over, because they cant smoke comfortable. Which is some bull****, that it controls them that much. They need to make pot legal and people would quit smoking so many damn cigs.

I dont have a point I guess.... Besides I like smokers... but dont like their smoke. Smoking should be done around people that dont mind being around it. Which means other smokers, not me.

Astronomer · 01-28-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Move to a house closer to your errands and tasks then

Stress relief

There is a huge amount of other options to getting stress relief, however for most of us there is not a lot of options when it comes to transportation.

Cars, while fumes are harmful, are pretty much a necessity for many adults in modern society because of how our lives and our world is organised. A car has always been an absolute necessity for me in maintaining my job and errands, as in all of the countries I've lived public transport has been pretty much non-existent and the suburban sprawl means you can't really not drive unless you want to take hours and hours to do something simple like go to the shops or post a letter.

Plus, car fumes are not really a major problem if you are sitting in an enclosed indoor space where second hand smoke may be a big problem for non-smokers.

Smoking is barely a necessity in my society at least compared to cars... it is true that physiological addiction can be used as an argument but the only thing stopping smoking will do to you is probably make you live longer.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-29-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

There is a huge amount of other options to getting stress relief

Yeah but i'd get fired if I did that.

I never smoke indoors either.

CanwllCorfe · 01-29-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Smoking in most public places has become banned here, which I think is a good idea. I don't have a problem with people who choose to smoke but people who choose not to smoke shouldn't have to put up with having their lungs polluted with unwanted chemicals. It is very unhealthy, and second hand smoke can do terrible things for your lungs. It's fine to say "if they don't want to breathe it in they should go somewhere else" but 1) Why should somebody have to move for a smoker and 2) Sometimes there is nowhere else to move to and you can't escape it.

Agreed! Even in the short term it sucks. Headache, scratchy throat.. and then also smelling horrible.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-29-2010, 10:19 AM

I can't wait for the day drinking alcohol becomes as socially unacceptable as smoking.

No more drunks shouting , causing trouble , pissing & throwing up everywhere. Police can actually work on proper crimes.

noise · 01-29-2010, 10:35 AM

cigarettes are one of the only things that are legal to sell which are guaranteed to harm you when used as intended.

i say ban 'em entirely. the addiction is mostly mental, they'll get over it.

i smoked for 10 years. then i wised up and got over it.
now, 2 years later, i'm disgusted by the idea.

a friendly note to all smokers: you smell like ass.

cardboard adolescent · 01-29-2010, 12:18 PM

the more we try to hide our death (sex?) drive the uglier it'll get. i think smokers are a nice reminder that on some level we're all self-destructive.

Zer0 · 01-31-2010, 04:27 PM

I'm a smoker and i actually like the fact that smoking has been banned in bars and restaurants here, it's not really fair on non-smokers. Smoking areas have become the best part of bars and clubs here in my opinion. Plus you can actually talk to people without having loud music pumped in your ear and enjoy a cig at the same time. And i've got with 3 girlfriends thanks to smoking areas

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01-29-2010, 10:19 AM	#107 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I can't wait for the day drinking alcohol becomes as socially unacceptable as smoking. No more drunks shouting , causing trouble , pissing & throwing up everywhere. Police can actually work on proper crimes. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-29-2010, 10:35 AM	#108 (permalink)
noise thirsty ears Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boulder Posts: 742	cigarettes are one of the only things that are legal to sell which are guaranteed to harm you when used as intended. i say ban 'em entirely. the addiction is mostly mental, they'll get over it. i smoked for 10 years. then i wised up and got over it. now, 2 years later, i'm disgusted by the idea. a friendly note to all smokers: you smell like ass. __________________ my flac collection

01-31-2010, 04:27 PM	#110 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	I'm a smoker and i actually like the fact that smoking has been banned in bars and restaurants here, it's not really fair on non-smokers. Smoking areas have become the best part of bars and clubs here in my opinion. Plus you can actually talk to people without having loud music pumped in your ear and enjoy a cig at the same time. And i've got with 3 girlfriends thanks to smoking areas __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

01-28-2010, 09:29 PM	#103 (permalink)
Cadrian Music Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 111	I come from an entire family of smokers..... And I can count out of the 10 or 15 really close friends only 1 doesnt smoke. With that said I feel like I know where they are coming from. I started smoking myself when I turned 19.... I use to get drunk and found smoking comforting for when I was a drunk and bored. It turned into a pack a day for about 6months. Then I got the worse sinus infection I have ever gotten in my entire life that spread into my lungs to make pneumonia felt like I had one lung that was the size of cellphone, I quit smoking as I lay in the parklot of my work not able to make it to my car. Took me about 2 weeks to just be able to do normal things and about 1 month or more to get back to normal. I havent had anything like it since... I have had some sinus problems but nothing to it Knocks on wood I cant be 100% sure it was the cigerettes, but thats all it took. Now.... I think every person should have their own right to do whatever they want to themselves. But I can tell when I been hanging out with smokers. Its in my cloths its in my hair, it changes the taste of my food. If I party with my friends I sometimes wake up blowing my nose and smoke filled snot comes out. ** that. Now with that said.... I realized a long time ago, if i dont allow smoking a decent spot at my house my friend and family dont come over, because they cant smoke comfortable. Which is some bull**, that it controls them that much. They need to make pot legal and people would quit smoking so many damn cigs. I dont have a point I guess.... Besides I like smokers... but dont like their smoke. Smoking should be done around people that dont mind being around it. Which means other smokers, not me.

01-29-2010, 12:18 PM	#109 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	the more we try to hide our death (sex?) drive the uglier it'll get. i think smokers are a nice reminder that on some level we're all self-destructive.