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DwnWthVwls · 10-19-2018, 07:11 PM

I struggle with balancing living life the way I want to live and living life in a way that I think is right.. The latter always wins except in cases where there isnt a conflict. I tend to do what I believe is right even if it hurts me. Id like to believe I do it in a way thats more practical and less cutting off your nose to spite your face, but im bias.

The Batlord · 10-19-2018, 07:16 PM

Hey if the human race lived in a way that was inline with ethics and not expediency and presumed pragmatism then we wouldn't be here.

DwnWthVwls · 10-19-2018, 07:20 PM

I'm okay with that. Our species as a whole disgusts me.

The Batlord · 10-19-2018, 07:41 PM

Our species doesn't disgust me except in doses. There are cases that offend me, but those are honestly irrational. Morality evolved to facilitate humans living in groups and to lose faith in humanity because of that morality is irrational. The only rational response to human morality is to use it increase human survivability, and when the human race falls short of that morality as a whole then it's rather funny to me. We've given ourselves a catch 22.

We can never live up to our own impossible standards that exist only to perpetuate our species, and yet when we on occasion do live up to those standards it's either because through struggle we've finally managed to reach standards low enough that we can't help but not fail them or because those standards were never high enough in the first place.

And yet it's dumb simply to strive for those standards because we made them up and they don't mean anything beyond being goalposts for the sake of being goalposts.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-19-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Our species doesn't disgust me except in doses. There are cases that offend me, but those are honestly irrational. Morality evolved to facilitate humans living in groups and to lose faith in humanity because of that morality is irrational. The only rational response to human morality is to use it increase human survivability, and when the human race falls short of that morality as a whole then it's rather funny to me. We've given ourselves a catch 22.

We can never live up to our own impossible standards that exist only to perpetuate our species, and yet when we on occasion do live up to those standards it's either because through struggle we've finally managed to reach standards low enough that we can't help but not fail them or because those standards were never high enough in the first place.

And yet it's dumb simply to strive for those standards because we made them up and they don't mean anything beyond being goalposts for the sake of being goalposts.

No other forum on the net has a "Post Your Desktop" thread that evolves into a cogent conversation about the morality of humanity. And THAT is what I love about MusicBanter

The Batlord · 10-19-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

No other forum on the net has a "Post Your Desktop" thread that evolves into a cogent conversation about the morality of humanity. And THAT is what I love about MusicBanter

Translation: no other internet forum has 66Sexy so why bother?

Lucem Ferre · 10-21-2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Our species doesn't disgust me except in doses. There are cases that offend me, but those are honestly irrational. Morality evolved to facilitate humans living in groups and to lose faith in humanity because of that morality is irrational. The only rational response to human morality is to use it increase human survivability, and when the human race falls short of that morality as a whole then it's rather funny to me. We've given ourselves a catch 22.

We can never live up to our own impossible standards that exist only to perpetuate our species, and yet when we on occasion do live up to those standards it's either because through struggle we've finally managed to reach standards low enough that we can't help but not fail them or because those standards were never high enough in the first place.

And yet it's dumb simply to strive for those standards because we made them up and they don't mean anything beyond being goalposts for the sake of being goalposts.

I think about these things a lot. Like how morality is basically based upon what benefits the human race yet certain things that help us still don't feel right for what ever reason. Like purging people with disabilities such as diabetes or autism or anxiety disorders to cleanse the gene pool so to speak would technically benefit the human race but still feels wrong. Or how I hate killing spiders despite fearing them because I don't think it's fair to die a horrible miserable death just for being a freaky 8 legged monstrosity. There are certain things that people say I should feel guilty about but don't and there are certain things people say I shouldn't feel guilty about but I do. Then again, guilt is probably also conditioned by the morality programmed into us at a young age. You get shamed for certain things as a child and you grow up feeling that shame for the same behaviors as an adult. There's times where I get hit with random waves of guilt or shame for minuscule things that I shouldn't feel bad about or just things from the past that I never stopped feeling bad about because I was berated and made to feel disgusting for.

Or maybe morality is born out of empathy which is a human emotion and would explain it's irrationality. If that's the case then maybe people who try to hold others to impossible to reach moral standards with out a hint of understanding and empathy are in themselves immoral for doing so. Expecting humans not to make mistakes or to be perfect harms them by forcing shame or guilt that can turn into self loathing rather than teaching them and allowing them to grow and become better. If forgiveness is lost then so is empathy and so are your morals. At that point you're just 'virtue signaling' to create the appearance of moral superiority. You're taking advantage of society's strange rules to feed your narcissism or gain a higher status in the social hierarchy. That is sociopath behavior.

**Frownland** · 10-19-2018, 08:12 PM

Other places just have Your Desktop threads. At MB we take it up a level because we're smart like that and have Post Your Desktop threads.

The Batlord · 10-19-2018, 08:14 PM

Just noticed that Frown hasn't posted his desktop. Exo!!!

**Frownland** · 10-19-2018, 08:15 PM

It's still the blurry Beefheart one with too many icons.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Other places just have Your Desktop threads. At MB we take it up a level because we're smart like that and have Post Your Desktop threads. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's still the blurry Beefheart one with too many icons. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x