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RVCA 10-12-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 942336)
You can be happy and proud that you ended up with THAT pinky toe, as opposed to a slightly longer or slightly hairier pinky toe. As a straight man, I'm proud of my sexuality. It's something I had no choice in, but I'm happy with it.

Contentedness and pride are two very different things.

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Homosexuals have their gay pride parade to show they're proud of their sexuality, and to rejoice in it, and to draw attention to it, to normalise it.
Right. I still don't agree with it, but I understand its use.

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So I don't see why Paloma, or anyone saying they're proud of their sexuality is a bad thing.
It's not bad, it's just erroneous.

Sansa Stark 10-12-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 942338)
I think she likes getting rodded by men tbf

I couldn't have put it any better myself

RVCA 10-12-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 942339)
I wasn't talking about fashion sense so much as your genetics. People are proud of their faces, bodies, genes, etc. Are you saying that you wouldn't take pride in being hung 12 inches?

No, I wouldn't say I'm proud of it. I'd say that I'm lucky/content/grateful, or that I have good genes... etc

RVCA 10-12-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 942341)
I couldn't have put it any better myself

That's still not an accomplishment, or any source of pride. You're biologically programmed to enjoy sex, just as you're biologically programmed to be straight. You're just begging the question.

Consolator 10-12-2010 11:08 PM

I am a male who is attracted to other males.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942342)
No, I wouldn't say I'm proud of it. I'd say that I'm lucky/content/grateful, or that I have good genes... etc

Oh, well, to be honest, I think that's a source of pride/shame for most men, even if you don't feel the same.

I don't think it's bad to have a bit of pride in all aspects of one's self. I'm not saying it's cool to be an obnoxious twat, but people have got to find things to like about themselves.

TheCunningStunt 10-12-2010 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942340)
Contentedness and pride are two very different things.



Right. I still don't agree with it, but I understand its use.



It's not bad, it's just erroneous.

You went to the definition of 'pride', there's a lot of definitions. It seems to be quite loose, a word with a lot of meanings.

"A cause or source of pleasure or satisfaction" was one.

You can have both pleasure and satisfaction with your sexuality.

I can kind of see why you brought it up, by being proud of something you didn't have a choice in, being proud because you were born that way may seem like you're better than those who were born a different way and have a different sexual impulse?

But I think it's double standards. Anyone can be proud of their sexuality, without it being a reflection on another's sexuality.

RVCA 10-12-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 942346)
Oh, well, to be honest, I think that's a source of pride/shame for most men, even if you don't feel the same.

I don't think it's bad to have a bit of pride in all aspects of one's self. I'm not saying it's cool to be an obnoxious twat, but people have got to find things to like about themselves.

I have pride in being accepted to the university I'm currently attending. That's because I worked hard in high school and earned my spot here. That's something to be proud of.

Am I seriously not getting through to anyone? Pride in non-accomplishments is, by definition, not pride. Am I wrong? There must be some aspect of pride I'm misunderstanding or not considering.

TheCunningStunt 10-12-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942348)
I have pride in being accepted to the university I'm currently attending. That's because I worked hard in high school and earned my spot here. That's something to be proud of.

Am I seriously not getting through to anyone? Pride in non-accomplishments is, by definition, not pride. Am I wrong? There must be some aspect of pride I'm misunderstanding or not considering.

"A cause or source of pleasure or satisfaction"

RVCA 10-12-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 942347)
You went to the definition of 'pride', there's a lot of definitions. It seems to be quite loose, a word with a lot of meanings.

"A cause or source of pleasure or satisfaction" was one.

You can have both pleasure and satisfaction with your sexuality.

Right. Pride is a cause or source of pleasure/satisfaction. That makes sense. But that has absolutely no bearing on the definition of Pride, which still doesn't seem applicable when talking about sexuality. Maybe I'm proud of my hair. I spend a lot of time styling it every morning. It brings me pleasure and satisfaction, and I have pride in it because I work at it.

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I can kind of see why you brought it up, by being proud of something you didn't have a choice in, being proud because you were born that way may seem like you're better than those who were born a different way and have a different sexual impulse?

But I think it's double standards. Anyone can be proud of their sexuality, without it being a reflection on another's sexuality.
Again, whatever your sexuality may be is irrelevant.


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