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RVCA 10-12-2010 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 942273)
Why shouldn't I have pride in my sexuality?
Wikipedia:

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Pride is, depending on the interactional and cultural context, either a high sense of one's personal status or ego (i.e., leading to judgements of personality and character) or the specific mostly positive emotion that is a product of praise or independent self-reflection.
So which side of the definition are you using? The first half inevitably leads to a judgment about homosexuals (and not a good one), but I think you're leaning towards the second half, which implies that your sexuality is some kind of accomplishment that deserves praise. I'm just curious as to why one would feel accomplished for being heterosexual, and why it deserves pride.

I mean, usually people reserve pride for when they've accomplished something such as rearing a respectable child.

RVCA 10-12-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 942279)
A lot of people are.

http://www.patrolmag.com/images/1673.jpg

We're here, we're queer etc.
Yes, but that's slightly different. I don't mean to set a double standard for homosexuals, as I don't think "pride" in your sexuality is the correct use of the term either way, but "gay pride" is an instrument used in making the public (or your friends, or your family, etc) aware of an issue in hopes of ultimately resolving it.

TheCunningStunt 10-12-2010 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942316)
Yes, but that's slightly different. I don't mean to set a double standard for homosexuals, as I don't think "pride" in your sexuality is the correct use of the term either way, but "gay pride" is an instrument used in making the public (or your friends, or your family, etc) aware of an issue in hopes of ultimately resolving it.
We're here!
We're queer!

etc.

Straight people can be proud as well, without being massive bigoted gaybashers.

RVCA 10-12-2010 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 942322)
We're here!
We're queer!

etc.

Straight people can be proud as well, without being massive bigoted gaybashers.
You seem to have ignored what I typed. There is no reason for anyone to have "pride" in their sexuality. That's like having pride in your pinky toe. You didn't contribute to its creation or growth. It's just there, whether you like it or not.

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2010 10:56 PM
People have pride in their appearances. Same idea as a pinky toe, just applies to everyone instead of foot fetishists?

Sansa Stark 10-12-2010 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942293)
Wikipedia:



So which side of the definition are you using? The first half inevitably leads to a judgment about homosexuals (and not a good one), but I think you're leaning towards the second half, which implies that your sexuality is some kind of accomplishment that deserves praise. I'm just curious as to why one would feel accomplished for being heterosexual, and why it deserves pride.

I mean, usually people reserve pride for when they've accomplished something such as rearing a respectable child.
Are you ****ing kidding me? Why shouldn't I be able to be proud of what I am? I take great satisfaction in my relationships with males. I love men. I would be just as proud as if I loved women. Who are you to question that? Oh, I should mention that I'm VERY proud to be a woman, are you going to tell me that means I hate men or look down on them?

TheCunningStunt 10-12-2010 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942332)
You seem to have ignored what I typed. There is no reason for anyone to have "pride" in their sexuality. That's like having pride in your pinky toe. You didn't contribute to its creation or growth. It's just there, whether you like it or not.
You can be happy and proud that you ended up with THAT pinky toe, as opposed to a slightly longer or slightly hairier pinky toe. As a straight man, I'm proud of my sexuality. It's something I had no choice in, but I'm happy with it.

Homosexuals have their gay pride parade to show they're proud of their sexuality, and to rejoice in it, and to draw attention to it, to normalise it.

So I don't see why Paloma, or anyone saying they're proud of their sexuality is a bad thing.

RVCA 10-12-2010 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 942333)
People have pride in their appearances. Same idea as a pinky toe, just applies to everyone instead of foot fetishists?
An appearance is something you can work at. If you spend a lot of time researching trends and picking out clothes and styles, you're welcome to be proud of your appearance. But being prideful in your excellent bone structure... doesn't make sense.

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 942334)
Are you ****ing kidding me? Why shouldn't I be able to be proud of what I am? I take great satisfaction in my relationships with males. I love men. I would be just as proud as if I loved women. Who are you to question that? Oh, I should mention that I'm VERY proud to be a woman, are you going to tell me that means I hate men or look down on them?
It has NOTHING to do with gay vs. straight, let's get that out of the way. Now, what reasons do you have for being proud of your sexuality?

TheCunningStunt 10-12-2010 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942337)
It has NOTHING to do with gay vs. straight, let's get that out of the way. Now, what reasons do you have for being proud of your sexuality?
I think she likes getting rodded by men tbf

Paedantic Basterd 10-12-2010 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 942337)
An appearance is something you can work at. If you spend a lot of time researching trends and picking out clothes and styles, you're welcome to be proud of your appearance. But being prideful in your excellent bone structure... doesn't make sense.
I wasn't talking about fashion sense so much as your genetics. People are proud of their faces, bodies, genes, etc. Are you saying that you wouldn't take pride in being hung 12 inches?


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