It's bollocks.

If a drunk man is responsible for his actions then so should the rape victim be (if they've actually consented but were pissed as a fart but this is difficult to prove.) And how do you determine 'drunk'? Is 3 pints drunk? 4, 5, 6 etc. And drink effects people in different ways. There's just no way you can be consistent with this.

The whole thing is a massive grey area though and you're essentially trying to prove one person's word against another's and in what is predominantly a crime with no witnesses other than those involved there will always be miscarriages of justice.

Ultimately, if you're a man and you sleep with a woman who's been drinking and you don't know her, you're a stupid cunt even if she's consented. You know what the law is like and if you don't want to be charged with rape, you take the necessary precautions to ensure that doesn't happen. It's shit but that's how it is.

The 6 people who voted yes in the poll worry me. Stay away from my future daughters!

The 6 people who voted "yes" wanted attention. Its a common symptom this close to this softball of a soapbox.

You might want to read Misspoptarts posts on why she did before you make blanket statements like that.

Is that going to be as fun?

Edit: So I read it, and while I disagree with her, I'll say 1 vote wasn't to be a troll-grinning jackass. Drunk isn't an excuse. Normally a nice guy isn't an excuse. He didn't mean it doesn't fly. Forget about women for a few seconds and let's discuss this as men. Do you (general you) have a shred of honor? Can you see where the night is going and tell yourself that you don't want to be that person? Can you add up what this action means for her?

Poptart has a right to her opinion, but sexual intercourse is a two-way street. If she let it get out of hand, then so did he. He's an adult and should act like it. An "oh come on" defense is laughable and if he said it about anything else to a room of men they'd look at him like he was being ridiculous. You're not a 5-year old, stop conducting business like you're a 5-year old. Men, in general, need to grow the **** up and act like men. Rape is the action of the morally bankrupt, criminals, and children who don't know any better (and are therefore classified as children and told what to do).

Men ought to know better. And honest, so should poptart.

http://www.upworthy.com/3-photos-tha...-defense?c=bl3

Agreed :laughing:

An anonymous poll is a brilliant way to win attention.

Hm, did I just hear something? Weird...

They draw attn to themselves if you read the thread from start 'til now so you'll know who to keep away from any orifices. :laughing:
There are a couple who are merely kidding, tho.

I've not voted at all.

^Not enough life experience, son. :p