Uh... I'd say having sex with children is ****ed up regardless of what time period it occurs in. I don't see how feeling that way is 'touchy' and I think this whole idea you have of 'reality' is profoundly cowardly and inhibited. The world is ****ed up, therefore it's stupid to be upset about it? It's just reality that stuff like that happens. "Meh". Also way to be sexist and marginalize women... also I think you missed the 'inside-joke' aspect of Frown's post.

of course it's ****ed up but there's no point in dwelling on on it. it already happened, it's one of those sad but true type situations. honestly muhammad had good reasons for making her his wife which FL might have been indicating to but there is still a tradition (by people who revered him) that states he consummate the marriage at puberty.

you saying my outlook is cowardly is another example of double talk on this forum. me just stating **** the way it is is 'cowardly' cause i'm afraid to have emotions or something. i'm not afraid of emotions its just illogical to get worked up over some **** that happened in the past by applying our present standard retroactively. it's honestly like watching a nature documentary and getting hostile towards the lions cause it seems mean to eat other critters.

Dwelling on things is how we make sure that we don't let them happen again. It's called stopping the repetition of history. And you two have different outlooks on life, so fighting about your differences is bound to be fruitless; neither of you is right or wrong, you just have differing glimpses of the same truth.

You want to stop this? Insist that biological fathers raise their own children and women who don't intend to marry the father stop breeding. Shame these disgusting animals.

Many nations are trying to curb unwanted pregnancies, usually by having contraceptives like condoms covered by medical plans and assisted care. But then people complain, because it raises their taxes, and religious employers get angry about paying for something that goes against their ideology, so... the lesson is that you just can't win.

And, no, i'm not going to shame someone just for having a different lifestyle from my own. Try living from paycheck to paycheck, with absolutely no hope of escaping from your situation, without jumping at the chance to have sex, drugs, or whatever else takes your mind off of your inevitable mortality even for just a moment. You may not agree with them, but try to understand their point of view, especially if you expect them to try to understand yours.

All I have to say is: Get an abortion. Problem solved. Unwanted child with no father? Problem created.

I'm a free love, pro-drugs guy. I even knocked up a chick on a one night stand. But guess what! There was an easy solution. We had access to a legal procedure that destroyed the fetus for us. Wa-la!!!

When infant mortality rate was that high and life expectancy was that low, it was kind of the lesser of two evils. You had to start making babies as young and as much as possible. However we feel about it now, it was just necessary back in the day, so getting pissed at some guy in the past for something that was just the way it was is irrational.

All I can say is that I'm glad my parents didn't have your mindset.

I know you're just trying to respond to me, but maybe this isn't the right thread for this kind of discussion?

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