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ribbons 11-08-2021 02:07 PM

The 16Personalities Test
 
16Personalities is the most popular variation of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) personality assessment. To start the test, scroll midway down the page to answer the first question.

Test: https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

You can read about each personality type here: https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types

ribbons 11-08-2021 02:13 PM

My results:

Your personality type is:
Advocate
INFJ-T(urbulent)
https://www.16personalities.com/profile

Mind
This trait determines how we interact with our environment.
6% Extraverted 94% Introverted

Energy
This trait shows where we direct our mental energy.
51% Intuitive 49% Observant

Nature
This trait determines how we make decisions and cope with emotions.
23% Thinking 77% Feeling

Tactics
This trait reflects our approach to work, planning and decision-making.
60% Judging 40% Prospecting

Identity
This trait underpins all others, showing how confident we are in our abilities and decisions.
28% Assertive 72% Turbulent

Marie Monday 11-08-2021 04:29 PM

INTJ(-T?), which someone assigned me before. I don't really recognise myself in the description though, idk if INTP would be more accurate

SGR 11-08-2021 04:34 PM

I got ISTJ for this when I took it in college. My comp sci professor lived and died by this thing - but I think he was stuck in the corporate tendencies of the '80s. This test is practically useless.

rubber soul 11-08-2021 04:41 PM

Got me. I'm a Sagittarius :D

SGR 11-08-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 2191067)
Got me. I'm a Sagittarius :D

Yup, so am I.

Akai 11-08-2021 05:19 PM

Not sure how accurate this is but this is what I got;

https://i.imgur.com/ZsTwTB8.png

Interesting test

innerspaceboy 11-08-2021 05:57 PM

I am an active member of a number of Myers-Briggs typology communities so I wanted to contribute something of value to this thread. My last significant other of the past two years was also a psychology specialist in the fields of Myers-Briggs and the Keirsey Temperament Sorter and we spend countless exhaustive hours exploring the Cognitive Functions and aspects of the Jungian archetypes in our lives and the lives of those around us.

There are a few stubbornly persistent themes which surface regularly within all of these groups. The first is the recurring naysayer threads linking to poorly-written articles like, "17 Facts That Prove Myers-Briggs Is Actually Meaningless" and "Why the Myers-Briggs Test Is Totally Meaningless." These are quickly debunked and dismissed as they fail to examine Myers-Briggs in the proper context.

Another recurring theme is the 16 Personalities website. While it is the most popular version of the test, 16personalities doesn't really look into cognitive functions, and instead uses The Big Five, thus why it has an - A or -T in the end. This suffix is absolutely meaningless in psychological circles and the site is widely regarded as the least-accurate of all Myers-Briggs evaluators.

The official MBTI website test is the best, but it is not free. Those willing to invest can take the Instrument here:
https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-...ti-instrument/

But for the best free online test, the consensus among all of the Myers-Briggs communities I engage is the following:
Personality test based on Jung and Briggs Myers typology

But most importantly, once you've taken the HumanMetrics test, you should explore this detailed article from Thought Catalog on How Each Cognitive Function Manifests Based On Its Position In Your Stacking:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-pri...your-stacking/

That will provide you the keenest insight into your results.

I always score as a strong INTJ and have compiled all notes and analyses of my results into a document I keep on hand for regular reference. It's been most helpful in my professional and interpersonal relationship dynamics.

I hope this info helps those curious to explore Myers-Briggs for the first time.

Trollheart 11-08-2021 06:45 PM

I don't know, ISB. It seems ribbons, one of our nicest posters (and they're pretty rare around here) put this thread together as a bit of fun and interest, and what you've done - which I am quite sure is not intentional - is to take her idea apart in, I have to say, quite a condescending and superior way. The takeaway from your post is "I know more about this than you". That's almost certainly true, from what you say, but I don't think it gives you the right to talk down to the lady. Again, I'm sure you don't realise you're doing this, but to me you are, and I think a small apology or confirmation that this was not your intention would not go amiss, as if I were her now I would feel pretty small. Well, maybe she is small, I don't know, but you know what they say about the best things...

Anyhow, she's probably going to be embarrassed and annoyed at me for White Knighting her, but I think her original intention should be acknowledged, not academicised (?) out of sight. Just my two small coins of the same value. I'm not actually interested in these tests, but it seems you are being a little harsh on her.

innerspaceboy 11-09-2021 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2191082)
I don't know, ISB. ,,, but it seems you are being a little harsh on her.

Oh my! Trollheart, thank you so much for bringing that to my attention! That in no way was my intent! I was only trying to offer helpful information for those interested in MBTI. Please forgive me, ribbons - I in no way intended anything negative with my contribution to the thread. I appreciate your introducing the topic and will make every effort to be more mindful of how I present information and more conscious of my tone when I speak.

I understand that, now and again, I unintentionally come across as harsh or cold. (That is unfortunately a common side effect of being an INTJ.) and that is in no way a reflection on ribbons.

I am so, so sorry, ribbons! Please forgive my ignorance!

WWWP 11-09-2021 08:00 AM

I didn’t read it that way at all - you were clear in your intention to bring your valuable experience to the conversation, and in fact debunked the naysayers at the same time. I see that as being supportive of Ribbons effort.

adidasss 11-09-2021 08:08 AM

Yeah I didn't see anything condescending there, but it depends how you read it. Knowing a little bit about ISB, who seems like a very nice and considerate person, I just didn't interpret it that way. Very knowledgeable about the subject is all. I'm sure Ribbons will appreciate the input.

rubber soul 11-09-2021 08:37 AM

I know I sounded glib in my earlier post and it wasn't meant to insult Ribbons, who is indeed quite nice. It's just that I've checked into everything from astrology to Myers- Briggs and getting different answers. The thing is, no one can put you in a group. Only you can really know who you are. We're all unique in our own way and to simply be lumped into some group, maybe a group that you really don't identify with, doesn't really help in the end analysis.

Anyway, I think you should simply be the best person you can be. You're not an Aries or a Leo or a Number Nine or an INSJ, you're just you.

Who wants milk and cookies? :D

WWWP 11-09-2021 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 2191145)
I know I sounded glib in my earlier post and it wasn't meant to insult Ribbons, who is indeed quite nice. It's just that I've checked into everything from astrology to Myers- Briggs and getting different answers. The thing is, no one can put you in a group. Only you can really know who you are. We're all unique in our own way and to simply be lumped into some group, maybe a group that you really don't identify with, doesn't really help in the end analysis.

Anyway, I think you should simply be the best person you can be. You're not an Aries or a Leo or a Number Nine or an INSJ, you're just you.

Who wants milk and cookies? :D

Can it be oat milk and stroopwafels?

Tristan_Geoff 11-09-2021 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2191146)
Can it be oat milk and stroopwafels?

GOATed reply




Also I'm ENFP last I checked

Trollheart 11-09-2021 06:57 PM

ISB, I know that wasn't your intention, and if nobody else took it that way maybe ribbons didn't either. Probably just me. Nevertheless, it's no harm if someone points things out like this. I had to have quite a few things brought to my attention which I didn't realise I was doing. Just a friendly nudge, that's all.

Freebase Dali 11-11-2021 07:05 PM

Is there a personality type for people who don't know how to answer those sliding scale questions with anything other than "it depends on the circumstance" and end up picking the middle option for every question? Because when I do that, I feel like the result should be way different than it is.

Trollheart 11-11-2021 07:23 PM

It depends on the circumstances.

Mucha na Dziko 11-12-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 2191492)
Is there a personality type for people who don't know how to answer those sliding scale questions with anything other than "it depends on the circumstance" and end up picking the middle option for every question? Because when I do that, I feel like the result should be way different than it is.

actually the fact that you'd always choose that answer, and the fact that you are surprised other people would choose differently makes part of the personality type assessment

Exo 11-12-2021 09:41 PM

Logician for me.

They seem to think I'm some sort of science buff. Really, I'm neurotic and like to collect weird sounds while alone.

ribbons 11-15-2021 10:17 AM

Just stopping in here to apologize for being absent during the misunderstanding that took place last week in this thread.

Within hours of posting the test, I received a phone call from my sister that my brother-in-law had died suddenly in a terrible accident. My sister is devastated and I have been staying with her since last week. This is my first day back at home.

To Trollheart: You were trying to defend a friend, and that can never be wrong. Thank you. I love you.

To ISB: Thank you so much for your very touching and eloquent apology – which was unnecessary as you did nothing wrong, but for which I’m very grateful.

Words are not coming easily to me at the moment, but – my apologies again and thanks to all who take my silly personality tests in good fun.

Plankton 11-15-2021 10:25 AM

Very sorry to hear ribbons.

Trollheart 11-15-2021 10:38 AM

Oh dear god! So sorry to hear ribbons! Puts our silly little back-and-forth here into perspective. Hope you're ok; you know where I am if you need to talk.

ribbons 11-15-2021 10:38 AM

Thanks so much, P. It's been a shocking week, but I've been thinking of you and your situation as well. Hang in there.

ribbons 11-15-2021 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2191870)
Oh dear god! So sorry to hear ribbons! Puts our silly little back-and-forth here into perspective. Hope you're ok; you know where I am if you need to talk.

Thanks so much, TH. I'm OK, but my sister is another story. My brother-in-law was the best husband and father in the world, so this is quite a loss. Thanks for being there, my friend.

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2191065)
INTJ(-T?)

Oh, you're a fellow INTJ


Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2191065)
I don't really recognise myself in the description though

The 16personalities.com test isn't really reliable.
And the descriptions on these websites are usually pretty inacurate.
A better way to understand what a type means is to read about the cognitive functions themselves, and how they affect each other in given order.

If you'd like to check your actually type you should do like 20-30 of such tests (on different sites) and then just make an average of what comes up the most.

I did so, and in 8/10 I was an INTJ, and 2/10 an INFJ.
Also I've been typed already by a couple of people (including my ex-girlfriend) interested in MBTI as INTJ.

So based the data I assume that's the one

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2191617)
They seem to think I'm some sort of science buff. Really, I'm neurotic and like to collect weird sounds while alone.

That could fall under the category of "science buff"

Marie Monday 11-15-2021 11:59 AM

My condolences ribbons, that's awful. Hang in there. At least your sister is blessed with a sibling like you

DianneW 11-15-2021 12:05 PM

Ribbons sorry for this to happen and good your there for your sister..many families seems so apart these days...including mine. I myself having a slight hic up with stuff and it does lay bad on you for sure. Thinking of your situation though..life is cruel at times.

DianneW 11-15-2021 12:13 PM

When I saw Ribbons personalities test ..I took it as just a bit of fun...I don't need to see or do serious stuff to know me...surely we all know ourselves in truth..how other's see us is often very misguided..as just by what we post up here on MB is no real way...

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2191617)
They seem to think I'm some sort of science buff. Really, I'm neurotic and like to collect weird sounds while alone.

Also the thing with MBTI that is that it's often interpreted the wrong way.

The personality type doesn't actually define you as a human being, what are your hobbies or ideal workplace. It rather shows you what your preferences in decision making are.
Like:

are you more prone to making decisions based on emotions or reason?

what kind of data that you get from your environment influence your decisions?

what kind of data you will probably forget right after receiving it?

are you more pragmatic or do you forget about doing groceries and cleaning your house, because your head is constantly in the clouds?

And so on and so forth.

It's actually a very helpful tool for self improvement, because apart from knowing what your tendencies are, you also are informed about your short-comings (the cognitive functions stacked behind your main ones).

Like, take me for example: I'm theoretically an INTJ (fun fact: the type usually associated with being a sociopath by most people), that meaning:

I - Introverted
N - Intuitive
T - Thinking
J - Judging

Now, the "introverted" thing in MBTI doesn't mean that I'm introverted in the popular sense (though both "introversions" are linked in a way). It means that my first cognitive function is introverted (so: Introverted Intuition), the second one is extraverted (so: Extraverted Thinking).
The next functions are in my case Extraverted Sensing and Introverted Feeling.

This means that basically that my dominant form of perceiving the world is through the lens of my "inner compass". The Introverted Intuitive types tend to live more in their world of fantasy, make predictions for the future (that often turn true, and because of that other types often find them "foreseeing"), and are more likely to turn to data that comes from the world of "ideas" and not necessarily data that comes from the "here and now". Introverted intuition is also responsible for processing lots amounts of data subconsciously, so if this is your dominant function you'll tend to trust your guts more.

Extraverted Thinking means you are more likely to want and enjoy having discussions/arguments about abstract concepts, complex ideas, etc, and not delve into conversations about (what you perceive as) simple thing: technicalities of our everyday life, social interactions, other people, etc, or your (/THE) emotions. This is also responsible for wanting to be very precise when talking to other people, and wanting to be very precise in your individual line of thinking as well.

Extraverted Sensing is responsable for your everyday life matters (chores) in this scenario, and people with low ES tend to forget about cleaning the house, making groceries, buying toothpaste when you've run out of it, etc., etc. And that's because your mind deems this stuff so unimportant (you've got a plan for world-domination to create after all) that it simply cannot remember this even after repeated notice.

Introverted feeling means an INTJ isn't very likely to want to talk about their emotions, nor will he be very sensitive to other people's emotions. There are these jokes about INTJ as the people who are like "Emotion? What is this?" – which are obviously not true – but a fact is that a person with introverted feeling low on the stack will tend to be disconnected from their emotions or perceive them as unimportant.

The last function is judging and perceiving. For extroverted types this function determines the way your dominant function works, and for introverted types how your subdominant function works. What this "Judging" means in the INTJ scenario is that you will be perceived as logical, competent, calculated and so on. This is because you "judge" the "thinking". You have a mental box for pretty much everything and you ascribe values to these things right away, so you know what matters to you, what should you take care of first and so on (based on the abstract values you have built for yourself.

Long story short, if you put all these together(:) you get an INTJ, so a person who:

Will have very strong beliefs about things, but will be capable of forsaking those beliefs if stronger evidence come against it

Will be very nitpicking, prone to being a grammar nazi and so on

Will be very calculated and precise when talking and thinking

Who you probably wouldn't like to debate, as the possibility you'll lose is greater than with other types

Will be extremely organised in their work station and their work schedule (because they'll always choose the more efficient way of doing things)

Will be disorganised in their everyday home life

Will rather think of the future, than of the now (and will make many assumptions about what will happen next – with those assumptions usually turning out true)

Will probably be highly inteligent (INTJs are over-represented in the IQ tests "genius" category)

Will show little to no emotions to the outside world (the famous Bitch Face is basically what an INTJ face looks like at all times – same with the inside world)

Won't be very good at comforting people (INTJ would rather stay silent and listen, or give out advice on how to improve the situation, not necessarily hug or something)

Will focus extensively on tasks at hand

Will probably want to stay alone most of the time (and that means the very majority of the time)

Will constantly run the new data he receives through the data and values he already has

Would rather stay home, than go out, would rather develop (their) existing concepts and ideas, and not be confronted with new data too fast (his brain needs to take a moment to run the new data through all the massive data collected inside of him) – so very conservative in everyday life routines

Anyway, you see the pattern I guess.
And so, you'd rather want an INTJ to be the CEO of your company, rather than a bureaucrat with lots of paperwork, or rather you'd like such a person to be your career's manager, not your roadie, rather the architect of your house and not the person to clean it.

MBTI basically tells you what your tendencies are, and not who you are. Then knowing what your tendencies are you can work on the things that you leave behind in your everyday life, in order to become a better person.
For an INTJ that would be something in the likes of "try to connect more with your emotions, and at least try to do your best in emotional situations of other people", "Try to focus more on the things you deem as chores, as those are the things that are holding you back in your progress", "try not to be a dick", and so on.

I've once seen a video that had had a very good allegory for the MBTI types and their cognitive functions:
You need to imagine your mind as a car.
Your first function is in the driver's seat,
your second on the passengers seat (with a map),
your third function sits behind the driver (less prone to getting hurt, than)
your fourth sitting behind the passenger.

Now ask yourself who has the most power over the direction the car is going, and who do you think should actually lead the way.


I might be wrong with some of the stuff, as I'm not an MBTI specialist (I was just interested in it for a month or so), so there might've been some inconsistencies with the official theory, especially in the function description part, but I believe I've managed to explain the gist of it.

Maybe someone more experienced in this stuff, like Innerspaceboy could clarify if I explained things well or got something wrong

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2191888)
I don't need to see or do serious stuff to know me...surely we all know ourselves in truth..how other's see us is often very misguided..as just by what we post up here on MB is no real way...

I would strongly disagree with pretty much everything you said here.

People tend to not know themselves, not care about whether they know themselves, and thus make stupid life decisions.
Most people don't even wonder whether they know themselves or not, they just live their lives.

How others see us is obviously misguided, because everybody has their own cognitive fogs around themselves, so they filter what they see through the lens of their own minds. And the point of such things like MBTI and psychotherapy, is to help folks blow that fog away and actually start to think in an insightful and meaningful way about themselves.
No tool for self-improvement is unserious or unneeded.
(Now of course, the MBTI test here isn't a thing made for such things, it's more of a fun fact you can throw at your friends, but the overall idea of MBTI and the personalities theory developed by Jung is a pretty serious thing)

I don't know how about you, but I'm pretty much the same person on MB and in real life. Just minus the facial expressions and minus the face-to-face intimacy/naturalness of human contact.


Oh, and I don't mean to be aggressive or anything (it's hard to express intention through the internet), I'm just making some points for a discussion

Marie Monday 11-15-2021 04:11 PM

ha, sociopath category ftw

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2191944)
ha, sociopath category ftw

Yeah, You know, because of the lack of emotional public responses and task-based/calculated type of social behaviour

innerspaceboy 11-15-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko (Post 2191908)
Also the thing with MBTI that is that it's often interpreted the wrong way...
...Maybe someone more experienced in this stuff, like Innerspaceboy could clarify if I explained things well or got something wrong

A marvelous contribution to the topic, Mucha! Thanks so much for contributing! I'm prone to routinely penning 5-10,000 word letters on a regular basis so it's great to see a member unafraid to expound and contribute more than just a few mere sentences in an effort to better-explore the nuance of the subject matter. Thank you!

From my understanding, you appear correct in each of the elements you’ve touched upon. I particularly enjoyed the vehicular allegory to help others visualize the roles of MBTI types and their cognitive functions. Excellent!

Another important component which factors into MBTI are the three primary phases of human life. Different cognitive functions are commonly focused upon and refined in various stages of life. To use myself as an example, I am in phase three, (my 30s, 40s, and beyond), and find myself perfecting my “flow state” and developing my Fi, (that’s Introverted Feeling). Psychologist Mihalyi Csikszentmihalyi uses the term “flow” to describe the state where we forget about ourselves and our concerns, “becoming one with” our present activity. I experience this often when writing or researching music. And in the past two years, I’ve considerably developed my emotional intelligence, (EQ), and have proactively fostered the most intimately rewarding relationships of my adult life.

I also wanted to touch upon your remark about INTJs and their propensity for untidiness. That’s another facet of my character I’ve consciously developed in adulthood. I’ve found that by meticulously scheduling household maintenance tasks on my daily calendar, I’m able to maintain a spotlessly clean museum of a home at all times with just a few weekly errands for routine upkeep. I share this to show that we are not mere victims of our MBTI - we can use the system to “blow the fog away” just as you said to provide greater clarity to help us become our best selves.

For those readers interested in diving deeper into their cognitive functions, I’ll share three of my favorite introductory sources from my own research on MBTI. These, along with the links I shared in my original post will provide a wealth of knowledge for those just starting out with personality theory.

My first offering is from Cognitive Processes dot com. The site provides an initial summary, followed by a hyperlinked table of all 16 types so you can jump to a more detailed examination of your own personality type. Check it out here:
https://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16Types/16Types.cfm

Next, here is a lovely introduction to cognitive functions from ThoughtCatalog dot com:
https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-pri...ive-functions/

And finally, Personality Junkie dot com offers richly informative profiles for each of the sixteen personality types. You can view them all in detail here:
https://personalityjunkie.com/16-mye...lity-profiles/

ribbons and your readers - let me know if anything I’ve provided helps you understand your cognitive functions better! Thanks again!

Mucha na Dziko 11-15-2021 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 2191959)
Psychologist Mihalyi Csikszentmihalyi uses the term “flow” to describe the state where we forget about ourselves and our concerns, “becoming one with” our present activity.

This sounds a lot like the zen buddhism Satori experience

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 2191959)
have proactively fostered the most intimately rewarding relationships of my adult life.

It's interesting you think so in your 30s/40s.
I have the feeling I might've already had the most intimate and rewarding relationships, and I'm only 21 [and it will never happen again]

Quote:

Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 2191959)
I also wanted to touch upon your remark about INTJs and their propensity for untidiness.

The funny thing is, it's so counter-intuitive that this type should have a problem with keeping things tidy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 2191959)
I’ve found that by meticulously scheduling household maintenance tasks on my daily calendar, I’m able to maintain a spotlessly clean museum of a home at all times with just a few weekly errands for routine upkeep.

I've once since an article (sort of science/spirit stuff), that basically said that in order to achieve "enlightenment" in life, one needs to satisfy the demands of your less-developed cognitive functions.

ribbons 11-17-2021 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2191883)
My condolences ribbons, that's awful. Hang in there. At least your sister is blessed with a sibling like you

Thank you so much, Marie. That is very kind of you to say (especially as I feel rather ineffective in truly helping my sister right now) and I really appreciate it. Will be returning to my sister's home for a long stay after finishing work today.

ribbons 11-17-2021 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2191886)
Ribbons sorry for this to happen and good your there for your sister..many families seems so apart these days...including mine. I myself having a slight hic up with stuff and it does lay bad on you for sure. Thinking of your situation though..life is cruel at times.

Thank you very much, Dianne. Yes, life is cruel sometimes and you know that better than most. I am thinking of you too, and hope your current struggle is short-lived and not overly difficult or painful. Thank you for thinking of me at this time.

ribbons 11-17-2021 08:29 AM

ISB and Mucha, thanks for the wealth of info and insight you've contributed to this thread. I'll have lots to study and learn when life settles down a bit. (I recall taking in the past the Humanmetrics test ISB linked to here, and my result was INFJ - same result I've always received in the 10 or so times I've taken MBTI tests, except for one time I was deemed an ISFJ.)

Trollheart 11-17-2021 11:44 AM



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