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DontRunMeOver 09-18-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smilebehindemptyeyes (Post 287695)
Oasis wasn't all that influential on the "rock" scene as a whole..they may have been on thier homeland, but not here in the states. so arguing this is a moot point. it's my own fault for comparing them to nirvana i guess, but i didn't realize how big they were in England. Guess it's like how popular Local H is here in Chicago..but outside of here, not all that many know of them anymore.

That's a very sketchy conclusion to come to. There are currently plenty of important British bands and to all of these bands Oasis have been important in one way or another. Some have taken many of their musical stylings from Oasis while others were just influenced by the idea of forming a band with their friends... and the interest is this was largely stimulated by, that's right, Oasis.

I can quite confidently state that in the 90's, Oasis were the most important contemporary band in inspiring British youths to pick up instruments and form their own bands. Nirvana, Radiohead, Blur, Greenday and maybe Metallica were all important too, but Oasis were the daddies in terms of influence.

There's no case for saying they "may" have been influential in the UK. They is no doubt that they were important here. And if they were important here in the UK and on the bands which the UK are currently producing, then they were definitely important in the "rock scene as a whole".

Therefore, you are wrong.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-18-2006 01:02 PM

Whats The Story Morning Glory was the fastest selling British album by a British artist.
Say what you want about how crap they are now that beats The Beatles , The Stones , Led Zeppelin , Pink Floyd , The Smiths ... everybody.

They were a breath of fresh air when they first came out. If Nirvana killed hair metal in the U.S. (It was never really that popular in the UK) then Oasis killed grunge in the UK.

Ace 09-18-2006 04:48 PM

Nah there can be no conclusion as to what nation produces better bands, and that's an issue that doesn't really matter. As long as they make radio play here, they'll be listened to and probably liked. But of course a band is going to be bigger where they're from, for the soul reason that's who plays them and where they first tour.

smilebehindemptyeyes 09-18-2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver (Post 288225)
That's a very sketchy conclusion to come to. There are currently plenty of important British bands and to all of these bands Oasis have been important in one way or another. Some have taken many of their musical stylings from Oasis while others were just influenced by the idea of forming a band with their friends... and the interest is this was largely stimulated by, that's right, Oasis.

I can quite confidently state that in the 90's, Oasis were the most important contemporary band in inspiring British youths to pick up instruments and form their own bands. Nirvana, Radiohead, Blur, Greenday and maybe Metallica were all important too, but Oasis were the daddies in terms of influence.

There's no case for saying they "may" have been influential in the UK. They is no doubt that they were important here. And if they were important here in the UK and on the bands which the UK are currently producing, then they were definitely important in the "rock scene as a whole".

Therefore, you are wrong.

"may have been" was poor wording on my part. sorry about that. Again though, this comes down to U.S. and British picks. I guess we'll just have to look at it like that. But I didn't mean to say they weren't Influential on the rock scene as whole..again, I didn't word my post properly, so it's my own fault. The only reason I got into this thread was because someone made the statement that Oasis was the biggest band of the 90's. Again, it's become obvious that's the case over there, but it wasn't the case here. I guess that I should specify that my views are based on my own opinions and experience here in America, and that I don't speak for the rest of the world. I'm sure there are even people here that would argue with me (cuz we all know how much people love to argue on the internet..i think it might be the favorite pastime of 70% of all american males between the ages of 15 and 38). So, good on Oasis for their inspiration and success over there..and more power to the people who support them. Everyone has their own tastes, and who is anyone to tell them what they should or shouldn't like.

Suspence365 10-09-2006 02:27 PM

What's with all the Oasis hate here? I think the discussion here is about who is the BETTER band, not who is bigger, who has more influence in their respective countries. This discussion has been winding down to an argument about who is bigger, Nirvana or Oasis, who has inspired kids to do what, and those are all legitimate music discussions but at the end of the day I would have to simply say that Oasis is a better band than Green Day. We could argue about what constitutes a better band, since as a songwriter Noel Gallagher has his hits and misses and Oasis must, as a band, go along with that (Be Here Now, Oasis' 3rd album, being an example of what the world considered a miss, but a good album nonetheless in my opinion), but either way, my vote is Oasis.

boo boo 10-09-2006 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzak (Post 287776)
Who the hell is Oasis?

Mediocre Beatles cover band who thrives on insulting every musician with a single ounce of talent.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2006 03:22 PM

Don`t think i`ve ever seen Oasis slag off anyone that didn`t deserve it.

I`m sure i`ll not be able to sleep at night knowing those blokes from Starsailor & Keane got their little feelings hurt.

boo boo 10-09-2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 293922)
Don`t think i`ve ever seen Oasis slag off anyone that didn`t deserve it.

Don't forget Radiohead, Blur, The Beatles and every other band that is better than Oasis in every way.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2006 03:29 PM

I`ve heard Noel Gallagher say good things about all those bands , even Blur.

boo boo 10-09-2006 03:31 PM

Oh, I must be thinking about the crappy singer that's drunk all the time.

Meh, Oasis are good at what they do, I just think they are the biggest douches in the business, Morrissey aside.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2006 03:35 PM

Nothing wrong with a bit of confidence & attitude.

You think Oasis are bad you should have seen what came before.
I prey you never have to listen to the likes of Neds Atomic Dustbin , Candyflip & Kingmaker.

boo boo 10-09-2006 03:37 PM

I don't think they are bad at all, though whenever I hear them in interviews it annoys the hell out of me, they think all music is about image and attitude, rather than music or anything where functional eardrums come into account.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2006 03:41 PM

Edited because Boo Boo chickened out & re-edited nearly all of his posts

:laughing:

boo boo 10-09-2006 03:59 PM

Nah, I realised that I was being a little mean.

But you can post what I originally said if you want to, just for fun.

Suspence365 10-09-2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 293919)
Mediocre Beatles cover band who thrives on insulting every musician with a single ounce of talent.

Um... no

boo boo 10-09-2006 10:28 PM

Meh, I called them mediocre, but I have no real problems with them musically (aside from the way Liam pronounces Shine as "Sheeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin ") I just dislike them imensely on a personal level.

But I will give them a little credit, they do have some talent, if not a whole lot of it, at least in my opinion.

But I called Morrissey the biggest douchebag in the business, but I take that back too, the biggest douchebag in the business is really Nicky Wire, he's a horrible musician (worst damn bass player I have ever heard) who finds enjoyment in insulting talented artists.

Atomic 10-11-2006 05:14 AM

Got to be Oasis - not that I'm against Green Day, but if you were to check the history books in 50 years time, you would stuggle to find Oasis and you wouldn't find Green day, IMHO :)

Piss Me Off 10-11-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 294033)
But I called Morrissey the biggest douchebag in the business, but I take that back too, the biggest douchebag in the business is really Nicky Wire, he's a horrible musician (worst damn bass player I have ever heard) who finds enjoyment in insulting talented artists.

Definitely, but reading interviews with him are great. The claims he comes up with are hilarious.

I'll go with Oasis anyday, put more heart into their music even if it was only for one album

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-11-2006 10:57 AM

As much as I hate Green Day I don`t see how much more influential Oasis are.

Just look at the music thats around now , compare how many punk pop bands there are to the number of Oasis sounding bands.

Oasis had a huge effect on the UK music industry , but it wasn`t long lasting and by around 1997/98 it had all but died out.

No contest really.

Giani 10-11-2006 11:27 AM

oasis! :hphones:

bigedwalden 10-18-2006 09:17 AM

id have to personally go with oasis but green day has been influencing 12 year olds for a long time.

boo boo 10-18-2006 09:18 AM

I never got The Green Day hate, granted their new stuff sucks, but I'll still defend Dookie.

I don't hate Oasis either, but I do see hating them as being more justifiable.

fattyboomboom21 10-18-2006 10:45 AM

though oasis is failing us these days...the last album seem to be a step forward from everything after "be here now", they still rock better than green day ever did.

tardis 10-20-2006 12:05 PM

Oasis...their early albums (I don't listen to their new stuff)

born2blog 10-22-2006 12:47 AM

I would much rather see Green Day in concert than Oasis. Mind you, Oasis has a few good hits but Green Day is much more fun to jam to

NaNaNer 01-09-2007 01:26 PM

^^ Funny name for a screen name.

Anyways...

I like the lyrics and instrumentals of Oasis..but it can all sound pretty blah compared the that of Green Day.

gottaSCREM 01-09-2007 03:03 PM

I'm not a fan of Green Day their music didn't intrest me at all. I have to choose Oasis just because I enjoy more of their songs and listen to them more than Green Day.

_Spinning_ 01-09-2007 03:54 PM

Old Green Day >>> Any Gallagher.

Desired_Moments 01-10-2007 05:43 AM

I loved Greenday, then hated them, then liked them, now they just don't pop into my mind anymore. I'd have to go with Oasis.

oasisfan123 07-15-2009 05:07 AM

how can u compare a dweebie little pop punk rock band to oasis who can actually write songs which no other band makes, no other band sounds like oasis, green day have no originallity and sound like all the other **** surfer/skater bands that are in the states, commercial bollocks at its finest, u havent got a clue mate how can u compare green day to the legacy of oasis

oasisfan123 07-15-2009 05:09 AM

yeah it all sounds pretty blah to "i wanna be an american idiot", my god how can that commercial garbage appeal to anyone

Piss Me Off 07-15-2009 05:10 AM

....it's going to be one of those days, isn't it?


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