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TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 02:03 AM

Most influential Individual in Music
 
Who is the the most influential person in music...EVER? Now it has to be one person, so if you want to vote for a band you're going to have to narrow it down to who out of that band is the most influential.

I'm going to have to say John Lennon. I've only heard a couple of songs from him as it's not really my style of music, but nearly all my favourite bands list him or The Beatles as their reason for getting into the business.

hiu 02-25-2006 02:29 AM

Miles Davis

Danusia Rolewicz 02-25-2006 03:54 AM

most influential?
 
Nina Simone, Marvin ***e and Aretha Franklin - It all comes down to what music you like doesn't it?

TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 03:56 AM

Not particularly. I'm not that interested in John Lennon but I recognise what he has done for the music business.

Danusia Rolewicz 02-25-2006 03:57 AM

that's soooooooo ridiculous
 
I can't believe yu can't write Marvin's surname. Since when is ***e, or g'a'y'e a curse word? that is ridiculous!! Sort it out. What about Gloria ***nor as well? And Michelle ***le?

right-track 02-25-2006 04:02 AM

Arguably it has to be Elvis Presley, as far as modern music is concerned.
No Elvis...no John Lennon...no Beatles etc.

Having said that...it's a tough one and I'd like to see an argument for just one individual.

You could argue for one artist for each genre, but for music in general...

Sneer 02-25-2006 06:15 AM

i think lou reed is pretty influential.

IndiElectronica 02-25-2006 07:36 AM

i'd argue against elvis... he wrote very little (if any) of what he sung..

LukeM_UK 02-25-2006 08:06 AM

Burt Bacharach.

boo boo 02-25-2006 08:21 AM

Bach, Mozart and all those other guys with the funny wigs.

LukeM_UK 02-25-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Bach, Mozart and all those other guys with the funny wigs.

I agree totally...

Before men like them, writing and performing music over 400 years ago, what was there?? - Nothing.

Some of the greatest tunes ever are being copied and played to this day. If that's not influential - I don't know what is.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 08:54 AM

i think.. if it weren't for the Mama's and The Papa's disco wouldn't have happened.. i mean there nothing alike but really pop turned to disco well some of it (i mean kiss even had a number one disco song) Mama's and the Papa's were pop of the 60's still then being considered rock of the 60's at the time. They were a rather popular band more so because of the movement with the hippies andwhat not, i think this band did have alot of influeince.

JimV 02-25-2006 10:48 AM

Mr J Lennon.

jazzfromhell 02-25-2006 11:55 AM

It's really an unanswerable question, you could just keep going farther back, but as far as modern, non-classical music is concerned...


http://www.yellow-springs.k12.oh.us/.../armstrong.jpg


...Louis Armstrong is the key figure, and has more influence than any musician of the 20th century.

TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 01:45 PM

explosions what do you mean 'even Kiss had a number one disco song'? Even Kiss? You say it as if they are some hardcore rock band. They are glam rock pure and simple. And I would also argue for Elvis Presley. Even though his lyrics were ghost written just look at the following he has. He even re-released a song recently and it topped the charts. Not many artists would be able to do that-not even John Lennon. He re-released Imagine, arguably one of his best songs, and it didn't make number one. And the song Elvis released wasn't even one of his better ones.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
explosions what do you mean 'even Kiss had a number one disco song'? Even Kiss? You say it as if they are some hardcore rock band. They are glam rock pure and simple.

I know what type of music they did.. but they were not a disco pop band.. but they did have a disco song.. and even they hated it..

TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 01:59 PM

I know they weren't but they were very much a pop band. It would be a crime to class them as rock.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:00 PM

when i said rock i was talking about Mamas and the Papas.. go back a re-rend if in fact thats what you have mixed up..

sleepy jack 02-25-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
I know they weren't but they were very much a pop band. It would be a crime to class them as rock.

If they're pop, then the beatles would be also and another thing influentiality and skill are two totally different things.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:04 PM

mamas and the papas and the beatles have different sounds and connceted to a different group of people. both bands sound like pop bands now yes.. but back then they were considered to be rock bands.. before all the heavy bands.. DUH!

TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 02:07 PM

I'm sorry but I won't class Kiss as rock. They are glam rock, which to me is basically calling them pop. I would also call Beatles pop. I know it might have been rock back then, but I'm young and living in the present so these bands will always be Pop to me. And yes influence and skill are totally different things-which is why I vote for Elvis.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
I'm sorry but I won't class Kiss as rock. They are glam rock, which to me is basically calling them pop. I would also call Beatles pop. I know it might have been rock back then, but I'm young and living in the present so these bands will always be Pop to me. And yes influence and skill are totally different things-which is why I vote for Elvis.

no one said Kiss were rock..

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-25-2006 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
I know they weren't but they were very much a pop band. It would be a crime to class them as rock.

You`ve obviously not heard their first 3 albums

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:27 PM

to me (this might sound funny) kiss were hair metal, and glam rock mixed into one.. they weren;t in it for the fans for the music.. they have said in interviews that they thought being in a rock band would get them chicks, and all the drugs, and they were right.. they all admit to not being that great at what a band is suppose to do.. but like Alice Cooper there a good stage band.. they were fun adn kept up with the times.. (but i personally like alice cooper i there there/he's good.. and a awesome writer)

TrampInaTux 02-25-2006 02:28 PM

Obviously not-I heard they turned more Pop later into their career, and that's probably what I've heard. With Kiss you've either got the people who like them or the people who dislike them. I dislike them. And Gene Simmons is an idiot judging by his appearance on Rock School. Those kids didn't even need his help.

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
Obviously not-I heard they turned more Pop later into their career, and that's probably what I've heard. With Kiss you've either got the people who like them or the people who dislike them. I dislike them. And Gene Simmons is an idiot judging by his appearance on Rock School. Those kids didn't even need his help.

i don't think its so much you either like them or dislike them.. and more so its either you like 70's kiss, or 80's kiss.. because that band changed with the times.. and or didn't change and stayed the sound (when they took of the make up they were hated.. hahaha) either way i like old kiss songs from the 70's but when the 80's came around i think they lost what they never really had much of.. talent.. haha

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-25-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojesus
Obviously not-I heard they turned more Pop later into their career, and that's probably what I've heard. With Kiss you've either got the people who like them or the people who dislike them. I dislike them. And Gene Simmons is an idiot judging by his appearance on Rock School. Those kids didn't even need his help.

They only really did 2 pop albums (Dynasty & Unmasked) And Gene Simmons is one of the biggest pricks in the world

explosions-in-my-pants 02-25-2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
They only really did 2 pop albums (Dynasty & Unmasked) And Gene Simmons is one of the biggest pricks in the world

the sad thing really is.. Gene is not a attractive man.. yet he;s had more ass then Robert Plant.. just useing names now.. but you get my point.. EW!

right-track 02-25-2006 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
It's really an unanswerable question, you could just keep going farther back, but as far as modern, non-classical music is concerned...


http://www.yellow-springs.k12.oh.us/.../armstrong.jpg


...Louis Armstrong is the key figure, and has more influence than any musician of the 20th century.

Well said!

mosesandtherubberducky 02-25-2006 07:06 PM

Son House, he played a huge role on Robert Johnson's playing, and by doing so he has played a huge role in all blues musicians.

Merkaba 02-26-2006 01:58 AM

Axl Rose.


Or I could be serious and say Billy Corgan.

Cheese 02-26-2006 02:03 AM

Les Paul

jazzfromhell 02-26-2006 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merkaba
Or I could be serious and say Billy Corgan.


Explain, please.

littleknowitall 02-26-2006 11:20 AM

freddie mercury

halfdeadhippo 02-26-2006 11:27 AM

Pythagoras. He's the dude who figured out the numerical ratios and stuff that're behind scales.

Levithan 02-26-2006 11:28 AM

this could go on for a while, causing problems...As there is no one idividual musican/artist that be classed as most inflential. You gotta look at it from genre, individually (who people think), talent (musically and vocal) and also which era they were around, like Mozart completly turned music on its head, but the same can be said about: Dylan, Cash, Cobain, Dimebag, Randy Rhodes, The Who, Sting, Paul Weller etc etc

Sneer 02-26-2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill
If they're pop, then the beatles would be also and another thing influentiality and skill are two totally different things.

early beatles were pop. well, in context with the music scene in the mid 60's anyway

Tommyrocker 02-26-2006 02:22 PM

Jon Bonham - made drummers realise they can make that **** look gud.

Merkaba 02-26-2006 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
Explain, please.

T'was taking the piss...

shoegazer 04-03-2009 02:47 AM

Down to three
 
Hank Williams, Chuck Berry, and Charlie Parker.


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