Just listened to 'The Gift' from White Light/White Heat. Truly one of the weirdest things I have ever heard.
Farfisa
04-28-2011 11:36 AM
How about that... Doug Yule? *waits for shitstorm*
clutnuckle
04-28-2011 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships
(Post 1044453)
How about that... Doug Yule? *waits for shitstorm*
i h8 pop music and therefore i h8 doug yule
death 2 commercialization!!!
also their self-titled hits me in weird places these days. lazy day music made transcendent in a lot of ways...
Moon Pix 1985
04-28-2011 01:41 PM
I used to like them but Im older and over the whole 'godfathers of indie rock' thing now. There are a lot of bands that I would rather listen to.
The live version of "What's Going On?" from Live1969 is untouchable though. My favourite stuff by them was the live stuff post-Cale when they were trying to be a dance band.
Farfisa
04-28-2011 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by clutnuckle
(Post 1044536)
i h8 pop music and therefore i h8 doug yule
death 2 commercialization!!!
also their self-titled hits me in weird places these days. lazy day music made transcendent in a lot of ways...
I actually liked him in "Sweet Nothing" and "Candy Says". I've also heard some of "Squeeze" and I was astonished that it wasn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Reed wanted more of a pop sound, and that's why they kicked Cale out of the band. If anything Reed should be blamed for their change in sound, not Yule.
TockTockTock
04-28-2011 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon Pix 1985
(Post 1044537)
I used to like them but Im older and over the whole 'godfathers of indie rock' thing now. There are a lot of bands that I would rather listen to.
The live version of "What's Going On?" from Live1969 is untouchable though. My favourite stuff by them was the live stuff post-Cale when they were trying to be a dance band.
I'm pretty sure The Velvet Underground were more than just the "godfathers of indie rock." I didn't know you could outgrow them either.
Moon Pix 1985
04-29-2011 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Pat
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I'm pretty sure The Velvet Underground were more than just the "godfathers of indie rock." I didn't know you could outgrow them either.
They are. They were a great band that revolutionised music and they were a big deal to me when I was about 19 and getting heavily interested in the history of alternative forms of rock and pop music. They are a part of that whole canon but I havent bothered listening to them for years. Now Im older I have a better idea of what my favourite music is and Im less influenced by what Kurt Cobain and Lester Bangs said or what Thurston Moore likes.
Im a lot more able to just like what I like now. Im a lot less bothered about 'the canon of indie rock' than I used to be. I don't even listen to Sonic Youth anymore.
Farfisa
05-02-2011 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Often
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I'd be careful. The man can shoot lasers from his eyes. I've seen it. He'll do to you what
he did to Penn and teller
:laughing:
On a more serious note they are not the only reason I taught myself guitar, but certainly the biggest.
I like their more pop sound, it is different and refreshing. I'm not saying Reed is a horrible person, but to anyone who wants bitch about the poppier sound, he's the reason.
Captain Ron
06-16-2011 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Often
(Post 1047263)
I'd be careful. The man can shoot lasers from his eyes. I've seen it. He'll do to you what
he did to Penn and teller
:laughing:
On a more serious note they are not the only reason I taught myself guitar, but certainly the biggest.
what did he do to penn and teller?
VEGANGELICA
09-02-2012 09:06 PM
I was reading today about the effects of drugs on the type of music that musicians make, and the author mentioned Velvet Underground's music as an example of "narcotica." I had never heard a Velvet Underground song before (as far as I can remember), and the information made me curious about the sounds that someone using heroin might prefer.
According to the source, "narcotica" music, which is music that people prefer to make or listen to when using narcotics such as heroin, has a very different sound than psychedelic rock, reflecting the mental changes caused by narcotics vs. hallucinogens:
Narcotica. The term applies to any music that is influenced by the use of narcotic drugs (e.g., heroin, opium, morphine, etc.) Because of the influence of narcotics, most narcotica has a lethargic tempo, few chord changes, droning melodies, minimal percussion (dense percussion is more effort than a heroin user can muster :)) and lyrics describing how the feelings produced by narcotics surpass even the fullest of earthly love.
"Heroin" by the Velvet Underground is the seminal song of narcotica. Its lyrics (though ostensibly sardonic) extol the beauties and joys of heroin. The song’s centerpiece is a seven-minute viola drone, and Moe Tucker’s broken-dryer drumming is minimal.
Intrigued, I listened to "Heroin" and was surprised to find I like it, although I felt they could have cut out a minute or two from the repetitive beginning of the song. I decided perhaps I may like narcotica much more than psychedelic rock, which I usually hate.
The Velvet Underground - "Heroin"
I felt this song has a sweetly sad, innocent sound with its droning viola and sudden energy bursts. I listened for 4 minutes before I considered stopping because it was getting repetitive and predictable (slow, fast, slow, fast, etc. etc., with the viola droning the whole time)...but I went ahead and listened to the rest and found that I especially liked the wild abandon of the chaotic, noisy, scratchy strings at the end of this song.
EDIT: The song also feels sad to me because it shows the way heroin must wash away a person's priorities and concerns. It reminds me of a close friend's brother who died of a hot shot when he was a young man. :(
