Brits Vs Yanks

TrampInaTux · 03-19-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Wait, so the better country (musically) is the one with better mainstream music?....

That wasn't what I was saying. I was saying that because anyone can become huge in Britain, not just rap artists and Pop Punk bands, it means that bands experiment a lot more. They will try out new things because they know that as long as they are talented at the music they make then they stand a good chance of getting famous. American artists don't get this freedom, they either stick to the formula or else they (usually) get nowhere. I'm not saying Britain is better because it has better mainstream music, I'm saying that the British artists aren't afraid to try something different with music because they know that ANYONE can get somewhere over here. You look at the best, original bands we have had. I doubt that they would have been quite as fortunate if they had started off in America.

Expletive Deleted · 03-19-2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo

Wayne Collie has called Radiohead one of Flaming Lips primary influences, in fact most of their influences are british bands, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, etc.

Listen to Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots, amazing album, and it has Radiohead written all over it.

IMO, Flaming Lips' best album was released in 93, long before Radiohead's influence could be felt.

And going year by the year the way you did, for me it would go like this...

1950s = US
1960s = UK
1970s = US
1980s = Tie
1990s = UK
2000s = US

Urban, like I said, Liars' new album is FAR more experimental than anything they've done so far. I still like the first two, though.

Hobojesus, all you've really said this whole time is that mainstream British music is better (which it is), which is silly since popularity doesn't decide how good a band is.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-19-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

Hobojesus, all you've really said this whole time is that mainstream British music is better (which it is), which is silly since popularity doesn't decide how good a band is.

Thats not what he`s saying though , he`s saying that it stands a better chance of being made because it`s accepted.

Expletive Deleted · 03-19-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Thats not what he`s saying though , he`s saying that it stands a better chance of being made because it`s accepted.

But that doesn't really make any sense, because the American charts right now are littered with crap Rap and R&B artists, and we don't exactly have a shortage of experimental bands.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-19-2006, 02:52 PM

No it doesn`t , but bands are influenced by whats out there.

You hear more variety it makes more sense that you`ll have more variety yourself

adidasss · 03-19-2006, 02:53 PM

70's US?? examples please!!

Expletive Deleted · 03-19-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss

70's US?? examples please!!

Modern Lovers, Suicide, Talking Heads, Television, NY Dolls, Stooges & Iggy Pop, The Beach Boys, Ramones, VU & Lou Reed, Dylan, Tom Waits, Ramones, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Blondie, James Brown, Parliament/Funkadelic, Theoretical Girls, Devo, Pere Ubu, Mission of Burma, all the bands on No New York, Gil Scott-Heron, Liquid Liquid, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, etc.

adidasss · 03-19-2006, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

Modern Lovers, Suicide, Talking Heads, Television, NY Dolls, Stooges & Iggy Pop, The Beach Boys, Ramones, VU & Lou Reed, Dylan, Tom Waits, Ramones, Marvin Gaye, Miles Davis, Blondie, James Brown, Parliament/Funkadelic, Theoretical Girls, Devo, Pere Ubu, Mission of Burma, all the bands on No New York, Gil Scott-Heron, Liquid Liquid, Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, etc.

you forgot the british counterparts.... c'mon brits, i'm sure there was a shitload of awsome british bands in the 70's!! that was like your golden age wasn't it!? is noone going to challenge this?!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-19-2006, 03:53 PM

Oh alright then

Nick Drake , Black Sabbath , Bowie , Roxy Music , Sex Pistols , Joy Division , T-Rex , Sensational Alex Harvey Band , Pink Floyd , Fairport Convention , Queen (Although I hate them myself) Led Zep , Deep Purple , XTC , Elvis Costello , Hawkwind , Throbbing Gristle , The Clash , The Specials , Loads of prog bands that Boo Boo has probably mentioned before , Public Image LTD , The Cure , Siouxie & The Banshees , ELO , Badfinger etc etc etc

adidasss · 03-19-2006, 04:00 PM

i say the brits win expletive....

03-19-2006, 02:52 PM	#245 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	No it doesn`t , but bands are influenced by whats out there. You hear more variety it makes more sense that you`ll have more variety yourself __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-19-2006, 02:53 PM	#246 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	70's US?? examples please!! __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-19-2006, 03:53 PM	#249 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Oh alright then Nick Drake , Black Sabbath , Bowie , Roxy Music , Sex Pistols , Joy Division , T-Rex , Sensational Alex Harvey Band , Pink Floyd , Fairport Convention , Queen (Although I hate them myself) Led Zep , Deep Purple , XTC , Elvis Costello , Hawkwind , Throbbing Gristle , The Clash , The Specials , Loads of prog bands that Boo Boo has probably mentioned before , Public Image LTD , The Cure , Siouxie & The Banshees , ELO , Badfinger etc etc etc __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-19-2006, 04:00 PM	#250 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	i say the brits win expletive.... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm