Everybody has some technical skill, they have to, to make music in the first place.

AC/DC are skilled, just not very skilled, and if they are, then they really do a really great job of hiding it.

In Probot and QOTSA Dave was good, but never did he fabricate anything surpassingly impressive in Nirvana. I've always preferred Chad Channing's style.

Perhaps they are very skilled and you just do a really inadequate job of conceiving it.

Still, Dave was better overall.

Chad was more over the top, but it made him very sloppy, Dave was much cleaner, and he didnt play anything that wasnt necessary.

Yeah, Dave's drumming was definitely more clean and solid, but Nirvana was never a really 'clean' band. Chad's drumming was much sloppier, but that aspect of his style made it more harmonious with Kurt's muddy riffs and Krist's clumsy bass playing.

Krist wasnt clumsy, just simple.

Kurt was the only really sloppy musician in the band (and that was usualy only when he did a solo or a more complex guitar part) after Chad left, Dave and Krist played very simple, not impressive but certainly not sloppy in my opinion, they were a good rhtyhm section, they held the song together when Cobain went out of controll, it was a brillant contrast between discipline and controll and pure noise and mayhem, its one of the primary reasons i f*cking love Nirvana.

I meant 'clumsy' as in lacking rhythmic abstrusity.

Their sloppiness is what made them so great and exceptional at the time.

AC/DC ??????
Are you people insane???

The nature of their music is simple , it`s just 12 bar boogie.Just because they don`t have 15 minute wankathon guitar solos doesn`t mean they`re bad musicians.AC/DC are one of the tightest live bands i`ve ever heard.

And for the record I don`t mean not technically gifted musicians in this thread, I mean real sh*t ones.

Ahh, my bad for misunderstanding, i dont think non technical musicians are bad musicians, many of my favorite bands and musicians are simple and non technical, but im so used to hearing the definition of "crappy musicians" as being all non technical musicians from pretty much everybody on DDD and elsewhere, bad habit i picked up.

And you are right, AC/DC were not about technical wankery, and a lot of people hate them for it too, which is both sad and funny at the time time.

Back on topic, its difinetely The Sex Pistols.

I remember reading many years ago that Tina Weymouth was the girlfriend of someone in the band and they needed a bass player.......so they taught her how to play bass. I guess they didn't teach her very well...

In answer to the actual question of the thread, The Ramones was the first band to come to mind. Yes, I guess I'll have to tell 'em that I've got no cerebellum.

So not wanking on your instrument like Batio (Billy Sheenan in this case) does make you a bad musician then.

We cant forget about Bob Dylan, The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Who, Velvet Underground, The Clash, The Ramones, The Kinks, Neil Young and Radiohead then...Talk about horrible musicians.