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Sebster17 04-02-2006 10:54 AM

Downloading Music Good or Bad?
 
Is it right to download music from Limewire, Soulseek, etc . . . ? Or is it just a way of 'sharing' your music with other people. Because this 'sharing' means you aren't buying records, which means artists as well as music stores are suffering. On the other hand, you save tons of $ by downloading and you don't have to buy a CD for only 1 or 2 songs you like on it. Which side of the argument would you fall under?

bungalow 04-02-2006 10:55 AM

uTorrent is a beautiful thing.

adidasss 04-02-2006 10:56 AM

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthrea...ghlight=piracy
i think pretty much all arguments have been made in that thread.

boo boo 04-02-2006 11:07 AM

Its good.

Try finding a Sonic Youth CD at wall mart and see how far you get.

Sebster17 04-02-2006 11:09 AM

o srry. i searched for a piracy thread with the search thing up at the top and didn't find 1 so i thought i'd start 1. i must suck at searching then . . . .

judas_priest 04-02-2006 03:54 PM

I don't usually download music

sleepy jack 04-02-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Its good.

Try finding a Sonic Youth CD at wall mart and see how far you get.

This one of the biggest things for me, i'm not fond of ordering CDs and half the time I can't find it. So I download it, or im broke as hell.

explosions-in-my-pants 04-02-2006 09:07 PM

yea i dont' have a lot of money, and the way i look at it is.. where i don't have much money and i NEED other then other then music, i can't very well go to the store and steal food and clothes and i never will but i can get away with taking music right from the interent on my very own computer. its a simple guit way of taking things for free without worrying if i'll have enough money to shop for my next meal.

cardboard adolescent 04-02-2006 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Its good.

Try finding a Sonic Youth CD at wall mart and see how far you get.

Do they not have record stores on Kashyyyk?

explosions-in-my-pants 04-02-2006 09:30 PM

its really bad here.. in this town all we have is walmart and all they sell is pop albums and mainstrem rap crap.... thats it.. i have no problem with downlaoding because of that.. and other.. but yea its not like i can offford to go to the otehr side of the island just to buy a cd.. that would be a $100 dollar cd in the end.. and it could be complete crap.. No thanks

boo boo 04-03-2006 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent
Do they not have record stores on Kashyyyk?

Not good ones.

I usualy have to go out of town to find a good record place, theres a hasting store that i go 2 every once in a while, its got excelllent variety.

Spikey 04-03-2006 12:51 AM

Hey this thread is knicked from another site lol...
Music is something people should get for free but then it ruins things for people like me *grins*
There's downloading and downloading. One is not good for bands but ok for people but illegal and one is a little worse for people but better for bands...
It's better to stay on the safe side. If you like their music p!ssing go buy it a shop you lazy gits :P Go buy the album and check em out. If you don't like the rest of the album it doesn't matter. I think downloading should be for the bands benefit and/ or just go buy their album and make them no.1... if you're willing to download it then surely it's worth paying extra for the album?

boo boo 04-03-2006 01:14 AM

I think downloading is the best alternative to getting a album that you cant find at any record store, most record stores i've been too are flooded with crap...I dont buy stuff online either, and for many reasons.

Spikey 04-03-2006 01:26 AM

Cool point. However notice... ALTERNATIVE not a subitute <<however that's spelt
I think things are good for bands over the internet but the system was better in the old days when you HAD to go out and buy the album.. but yea nice point.

boo boo 04-03-2006 01:33 AM

Of course if theres a album that you could just buy at a record store, then it wouldnt hurt to do that instead of illegal downloading, all you have to do is sacrifice 10 to 30 bucks depending on the price.

hiu 04-03-2006 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Its good.

Try finding a Sonic Youth CD at wall mart and see how far you get.

I think you are not looking hard enough. I live in a small town and still manage to see Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr and other alternative rock bands cds in abundance, thanks to Nirvana. The problem for me is the price, whenever I find a good cd it is like 40 dollars. This has happened before a couple of times when going to buy Black Flags Dammaged a few years ago and Televisions Marquee Moon among others. The other problem is getting really underground music. I'm never going to find a single by some punk band that released 100 pressings of said single and then disappeared for good. It's almost impossible to ever hear some of this great music if I don't download it.

boo boo 04-03-2006 03:05 AM

Well, Kashyyyk (aka.Tennessee) sucks when it comes to finding good CDs.

MURDER JUNKIE 04-03-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Well, Kashyyyk (aka.Tennessee) sucks when it comes to finding good CDs.


How can you say that?? I bought my first Hank Williams CD in Tennessee http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...p/badteeth.gif

boo boo 04-03-2006 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
How can you say that?? I bought my first Hank Williams CD in Tennessee http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...p/badteeth.gif

Yay...I got his boxset for christmas. :)

MURDER JUNKIE 04-03-2006 03:25 AM

sweet, I love that shizz

I went to a Hank Williams festival a few weeks ago, I got to dance with an old lady with rhinestone encrusted boots. It was cool, she bought me a drink http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...p/badteeth.gif

ryan123 04-03-2006 01:02 PM

its bad on the whole but it cant be prevented, so its gonna need working around, so bands dont loose too much cash, especially those that dont sell loads of records

manuel1984 04-03-2006 01:08 PM

It is wrong in a way, but i tend to download music and if i like the band then i usually tend to buy their album.
nothing worse then buyin a new bands album and regretting buying it!!!

hiu 04-03-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan123
its bad on the whole but it cant be prevented, so its gonna need working around, so bands dont loose too much cash, especially those that dont sell loads of records

The fuss really isn't about money not going to the artist but money not going to the record company.

bungalow 04-03-2006 01:47 PM

Artists make very little of their money off album sales, they make much, much more off ticket sales.

cardboard adolescent 04-03-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Artists make very little of their money off album sales, they make much, much more off ticket sales.

Not if you're Jandek.

jr. 04-03-2006 02:43 PM

When I was in my teens, I always bought albums. I had no other responsibility, so I sank my money into music. Albums were 5-7 dollars.

Today, though, with the addition of kids, wife, bills, mortgage, etc, I simply can't go plunk down 20 bucks every week for music that may or may not be any good.

I use downloading as a tool, to see if I am willing to invest, legitimately, in an artist's work.

As an example, I'd always dabbled around with blues, but never really listened to it extensively, other than what I could catch on the college radio station. So, after hearing a few different artists, I would download some of their stuff, and burn it, and give it a test drive for a few weeks, see if it grew on me. I now own a ton of legitimate store bought blues cds that I enjoy, as opposed to owning maybe 1/2 dozen or so and quitting because I felt as though I'd been ripped off.

littleknowitall 04-03-2006 02:51 PM

music - under certain circumstances is just. e.g your skint or cant find the album anywhere.

pornography - just try and stop me.

tdoc210 04-03-2006 05:18 PM

^ i shall

littleknowitall 04-03-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism
^ i shall

....and you shall fail miserably.:bringit:

claudioismybitch 04-03-2006 08:52 PM

i think downloading is awesome. you can find stuff, that you can't find in stores. and bands charge a bloody mint while on tour for tickets, merchandise, whatever.
and if you say, oh well if people stopped downloading their cd's then they wouldn't have to charge so much, but thats total sh-it

my parents went to pleanty of shows back in the 70's and the bands then charged just as much. SO DOWNLOAD ALL YOU WANT!

littleknowitall 04-04-2006 03:28 AM

actually god knows how artists make money, it has to be cd sales because i remember reading about it and touring expecnces for most artists outweighs the profit they make i think there were only a select few bands that actually make a significant ammount of mony when they tour. i know ac/dc and the rolling stones do. and led zepplin could afford to just throw money away. but apart from that most bands barely make anything off touring.

DearJenny 04-04-2006 04:40 AM

I will download if its a big band. Like, the knid that arent going to miss my twenty bucks, ya know?

But smaller, like Dresden Dolls, DeVotchKa, Myriads etc. The ones that dont have a huge fanbase, and their CDs rarely hit stores(of course, Dresden Dolls are growing fast!). I will buy if I can find.

boo boo 04-04-2006 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Artists make very little of their money off album sales, they make much, much more off ticket sales.

That is true.

Especialy in the case of bands like Phish and The Greatful Dead.

Sneer 04-04-2006 03:36 PM

illegal downloading is killing the music industry. im so anti-it i dont even own the software myself. not only that, the fools who upload the files are ruthless rogues who think nothing of spraying viruses across the cyber spectrum. on the flipside i think legal downloading is both sensible, evolutionary and beneficial to the industry.

boo boo 04-04-2006 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LedZepStu
illegal downloading is killing the music industry. im so anti-it i dont even own the software myself. not only that, the fools who upload the files are ruthless rogues who think nothing of spraying viruses across the cyber spectrum. on the flipside i think legal downloading is both sensible, evolutionary and beneficial to the industry.

Dr. Dre says that when you downlaod illegaly you are taking the food out of his kids mouths.

I mean, im pretty sure the guy has a hard time supporting his kids, especialy with his income.

bungalow 04-04-2006 03:44 PM

Artists make very little money off CDs....!
If anything we are taking money away from the record labels themselves, not the artists.

boo boo 04-04-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
Artists make very little money off CDs....!
If anything we are taking money away from the record labels themselves, not the artists.

Well those bastards deserve it.

Sneer 04-04-2006 03:52 PM

artist do get royalties from record sales, they are the main measurement of success nowadays.

bungalow 04-04-2006 03:53 PM

Sure, they get royalties, but that is not how they make their millions. They make the overwhelming majority of their money off concert ticket sales, and merchandice.

tdoc210 04-04-2006 03:54 PM

^lalalalal actually if u use a certified membership but client with virus scaaning u wont get any


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