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Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315999)
Thats better than almost single-handedly starting the grunge movement?

Yes because 95% of that movement was made up of sh*t copycat bands with nothing remotly interesting to listen to.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 315997)
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

A fan of Fozzy is lecturing me about what good music is.


There , now THAT is patronizing you

ooh, lets start a personal argument to appease our grandiose ego shall we?
f*ck off.
Id take Fozzy over Gaydiohead any day of the week.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 316000)
Yes because 95% of that movement was made up of sh*t copycat bands with nothing remotly interesting to listen to.

maybe so, but THEY WERE COPYING NIRVANA:usehead:
meaning that Nirvana was a huge influence on music
as opposed to Radiohead who only used huge influences from other people's music

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 316005)
maybe so, but THEY WERE COPYING NIRVANA:usehead:
meaning that Nirvana was a huge influence on music
as opposed to Radiohead who only used huge influences from other people's music

So who are these hundreds of good bands Nirvana influenced?
I don`t see any , and please leave out any generic MTV sh*te out of any list you make.

Friday 12-24-2006 10:06 AM

'Head's influence will be going on for decades. Not just in one short burst like Nirvana.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 316009)
So who are these hundreds of good bands Nirvana influenced?
I don`t see any , and please leave out any generic MTV sh*te out of any list you make.

are you seriously denying that Nirvana had no influence on music as we know it today? or even going as far as to insinuate that Radiohead had a greater influence?



And Im not saying that Nevermind should be at number 1 (which maybe it should, but w/e), im just saying it should be before OK Computer. And if they made number 6, even if the list is f'd up, you have to admit thats still pretty damn good.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Friday (Post 316012)
'Head's influence will be going on for decades. Not just in one short burst like Nirvana.

yeah, a short burst of 15 years and counting.

littleknowitall 12-24-2006 10:11 AM

Who the **** votes oasis 8 places over pink floyd? people these days make me christmas sick :(

ArtistInTheAmbulance 12-24-2006 10:11 AM

question; why is anyone paying nme any attention anyway?
since when has this been goin on...


edit; WOW at urbans avatar.

Friday 12-24-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 316015)
yeah, a short burst of 15 years and counting.

That's nothing really in music. Ok's impact on music will spread slowly and will still seem fresh whereas Nevermind already sounds dated.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Friday (Post 316021)
That's nothing really in music. Ok's impact on music will spread slowly and will still seem fresh whereas Nevermind already sounds dated.

well, this is just opinion vs. opinion so I'm gonna let it rest.

Mr Sensitive 12-24-2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 316013)
are you seriously denying that Nirvana had no influence on music as we know it today?

Well he didn't say that, I think he meant that Nirvana had an awful influence on music, which is why we have horrible bands like Nickleback today.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 10:15 AM

As far as 'underground' music today goes I think bands like Slint & Pavement had a much bigger influence than Nirvana ever did.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sensitive (Post 316027)
Well he didn't say that, I think he meant that Nirvana had an awful influence on music, which is why we have horrible bands like Nickleback today.

Youre going to hell. Damnit! I need to stop replying.

Friday 12-24-2006 10:16 AM

I can dig that.

Another point, as someone who has listened to the majority of Queen's back catalogue. Why pick Night At The Opera? Apart from its one defining song it is awful and overly pompous. Queen's debut was far less dull aswell.

Edit : Screw the Palatino Linotype. Too much hassle

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 10:18 AM

Shame Queen didn`t split up in 1975 , those first 3 albums were quality

right-track 12-24-2006 10:18 AM

Agreed^

Friday 12-24-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 316035)
Shame Queen didn`t split up in 1975 , those first 3 albums were quality

I agree with that. I have some early recordings from a session at the Beeb which are really good. It's excellent without Brian May's smug attitude aswell.

right-track 12-24-2006 10:23 AM

Tunes like Seven Seas Of Rhye...Sheer Heart Attack were far better than the lameness of tracks like Fat Bottomed Girl, Radio Ga-ga etc.
Great band live though.

right-track 12-24-2006 10:25 AM

I still can't believe Oasis made No 1.
Here in Manchester, the local all time album chart, doesn't have them in the top 5 Manchester bands.

MURDER JUNKIE 12-24-2006 10:28 AM

Basically what this poll states is that Oasis are better than the Beatles, Christ imagine the size of Noel's head now.

Mentioning The Sex Pistols and the Clash in the same list without the inclusion of the Ramones discredits the entire list, you brits sure love your generic music

Friday 12-24-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE (Post 316049)
you brits sure love your generic music


Dont judge us on the NME.

Sneer 12-24-2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315980)
Radiohead is pure f@ggotry. Saying theyre better than Nirvana or Sex Pistols is a clear indicator of downs syndrome (no offense of course).

HAHAHA. WOW, sex pistols... better than radiohead? what mind altering drugs are you on? and nirvana made one very good album and performed a great acoustic set once, radiohead have consistently made very good albums for 11 years.

sleepy jack 12-24-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu (Post 316084)
HAHAHA. WOW, sex pistols... better than radiohead? what mind altering drugs are you on?

Its called "shitty taste".

elevator 01-11-2007 07:26 PM

nevermind the bullocks was more influential than ok computer or any other radiohead album

sleepy jack 01-11-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elevator (Post 324286)
nevermind the bullocks was more influential than ok computer or any other radiohead album

If not Nevermind The Bullocks, then the Clash's self-titled, or Damned, Damned, Damned. The album didn't do much that any other couldn't have done.

DontRunMeOver 01-12-2007 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by elevator (Post 324286)
nevermind the bullocks was more influential than ok computer or any other radiohead album

More influential, yes. But not as good. If you think it is anywhere near as good you probably are deaf and/or stupid.

If the list were about overall influence on the music world then it would have to include Britney Spear's first album and something by Madonna too.

Can everybody now please ignore the NME completely. We know it's crap, if we don't pay it any attention it might go away.

littleknowitall 01-12-2007 07:57 AM

Nowhere on that list did they have appetite for destruction! that's probably the greatest debut album i can think of, and it's fantastic.

tdoc210 01-12-2007 08:53 AM

is nme...like the british rolling stone?

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 09:03 AM

Much worse..

The British Rolling Stone as made by indie kids

NaNaNer 01-12-2007 09:49 AM

I wonder how the compile this information..I mean there must be a group of people somewhere researching this..right?

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by NaNaNer (Post 324370)
I wonder how the compile this information..I mean there must be a group of people somewhere researching this..right?

By the look of that list i`d say it`s compiled with a dartboard & a blindfold

NaNaNer 01-12-2007 10:08 AM

I would have to agree only because there is really no think outside the box reason to this..the beatles, led zeppelin is great..etc..but it all seems cliche..

TheBig3 01-12-2007 10:13 AM

If its the British Rolling Stone made by Indie Kids, then its the British Spin.

Well I don't think we should ignore what NME says because if we were to review a competent list, even if we disagreed there wouldn't be 8 pages of replies.

In defence of Nirvana, most people regard In Utero as better. Not me per say, but people, and a few publications. I think Nevermind deserves a spot on the list. Heres my arguments as to why.

1. Yeah same old chords, thats fine, fancy guitar work isn't always needed, but Kurt should be remembered more for the vocal melodies than his guitar work. His songs were something that brought passion back, and that passion can be felt in a song in my opinion. Who knows, perhaps its diffrent for the Brits.

2. Sure their is a lot of waste we can thank Cobain for, but that doens't mean actual good bands won't be inspiried years down the road. They say the heir to the throne of Led Zeppelin was Janes Addiction and how many years later did they arrive? How many **** bands did they create. I'm not making the comparison, just making a point. Don't count Nirvana out yet, I think theres a 14 year old in his basement somewhere making great music because of Nevermind but just because he's not dropping discs now doesn't mean he won't.

3. I happen to think Ghrol's drum work is something thats impressive. Let it be the musicality of the record then.

4. I thin perhaps there was a race to see who could bash them the most, or maybe a distancing of one's self from oojay (which is understandable) but lets be fair, it may not be one of the Top 10, but its not so out of line to think someone would put it on there.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 324374)
They say the heir to the throne of Led Zeppelin was Janes Addiction and how many years later did they arrive?

Actually when U2 started they were dubbed the next Led Zeppelin.

TheBig3 01-12-2007 10:54 AM

Yeah but that doesn't still stand.

Crowe 01-12-2007 11:48 AM

I love Night at the Opera. Calling it overblown, pompous rubbish is overblown pompous rubbish in itself.

Love,
The Biggest Queen Fanboi ever.

boo boo 01-12-2007 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 315701)
15. 'Up The Bracket' - The Libertines

:laughing:

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Originally Posted by Crowe (Post 324386)
I love Night at the Opera. Calling it overblown, pompous rubbish is overblown pompous rubbish in itself.

Word.

Again it well illustrates how different Urbans musicial view is from mine, I've tried getting into some of the bands Urban likes, and Super Furry Animals, Primal Scream and Aphex Twin aside I don't like any of it... I recall listening to Pulp, and then trying to get someone to euthanize me afterwards.

TheBig3 01-12-2007 01:28 PM

SFA is worth another shot honestly.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 01:43 PM

I like the first 3 Queen albums , I even called Live Killers one of the best live albums i`ve ever heard.

I just really really hate Bohemian Rhapsody.


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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 324392)
SFA is worth another shot honestly.

You should hear Gruff Rhys`s new solo album Candylion.

Reminds me exactly why I loved SFA in the first place.


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