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right-track 12-23-2006 12:32 PM

Best Album Of All Time (revealed)
 
According to NME magazine, the best album of all time is...

...Oasis - Definately Maybe.

^Definately not^

Discuss.

tdoc210 12-23-2006 12:38 PM

no..no its not

right-track 12-23-2006 12:40 PM

Wonderful insight there Mikey.
Care to expand? ;)

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-23-2006 12:55 PM

I`m sure they said it was the Stone Roses debut last year.

tdoc210 12-23-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 315696)
Wonderful insight there Mikey.
Care to expand? ;)

i never liked oasis.
and second someone cant declare a an album the best album ever, because all peoples opinions, my favourite album is nirvana unplugged, but thats me, and as lame as it sounds,m yes that is my fave album, but thousands of people would disagree. Its just like thebest songwriter articles//

right-track 12-23-2006 01:13 PM

Here's the full list;

1. 'Definitely Maybe' - Oasis
2. 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' - The Beatles
3. 'Revolver' - The Beatles
4. 'OK Computer' - Radiohead
5. '(What's The Story) Morning Glory?' - Oasis
6. 'Nevermind' - Nirvana
7. 'The Stone Roses' - The Stone Roses
8. 'Dark Side Of The Moon' - Pink Floyd
9. 'The Queen Is Dead' - The Smiths
10. 'The Bends' - Radiohead
11. 'The Joshua Tree' - U2
12. 'London Calling' - The Clash
13. 'The Beatles (The White Album)' - The Beatles
14. 'Abbey Road' - The Beatles
15. 'Up The Bracket' - The Libertines
16. 'Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols' - Sex Pistols
17. 'Four Symbols (Led Zeppelin IV)' - Led Zeppelin
18. 'The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars' - David Bowie
19. 'A Night At The Opera' - Queen
20. 'Is This It' - The Strokes

I think 'Definately Maybe' is a great album and by far the best Oasis produced, but nowhere near the best ever.
It wouldn't even figure in my personal top 100.
If I had a top 20, only Bowie's 'Ziggy Stardust' would figure in it.
It is a personal taste thing Mikey...but seriously 'Definately Maybe' at number 1...WTF!

Laces Out Dan! 12-23-2006 01:15 PM

Soo...out of that 20...theres only one band from North America if im correct.
Also, How the fuck did the strokes make that list. The Strokes are garbage.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-23-2006 01:23 PM

Up The Bracket in there & Screamadelica isn`t

:laughing:

Chronotub 12-23-2006 01:26 PM

pretty **** list, but then I wouldn't expect anything else from nme

have they not realised there's more to music than just rock?

right-track 12-23-2006 01:28 PM

Embarrassing isn't it.

LesPaul...I know what you mean, the mag is Brit focused.
I just love the way the readers have put the odd classic album in there too...you just know they won't even have listened to Queen's, 'A Night at The Opera'.

Merkaba 12-23-2006 02:05 PM

I love magazines like this, they do this every year, how do they come up with a new greatest album of all time each year?

It's completely non-genuine.

And haha to Oasis beating David Bowies album, even Radiohead beats Oasis.

adidasss 12-23-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 315701)
Here's the full list;

1. 'Definitely Maybe' - Oasis
2. 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' - The Beatles
3. 'Revolver' - The Beatles
4. 'OK Computer' - Radiohead
5. '(What's The Story) Morning Glory?' - Oasis
6. 'Nevermind' - Nirvana
7. 'The Stone Roses' - The Stone Roses
8. 'Dark Side Of The Moon' - Pink Floyd
9. 'The Queen Is Dead' - The Smiths
10. 'The Bends' - Radiohead
11. 'The Joshua Tree' - U2
12. 'London Calling' - The Clash
13. 'The Beatles (The White Album)' - The Beatles
14. 'Abbey Road' - The Beatles
15. 'Up The Bracket' - The Libertines
16. 'Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols' - Sex Pistols
17. 'Four Symbols (Led Zeppelin IV)' - Led Zeppelin
18. 'The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars' - David Bowie
19. 'A Night At The Opera' - Queen
20. 'Is This It' - The Strokes

I think 'Definately Maybe' is a great album and by far the best Oasis produced, but nowhere near the best ever.
It wouldn't even figure in my personal top 100.
If I had a top 20, only Bowie's 'Ziggy Stardust' would figure in it.
It is a personal taste thing Mikey...but seriously 'Definately Maybe' at number 1...WTF!

I don't see why Definitely maybe couldn't be at number one, if we're going by personal taste that is. It's only because there's a widespred prejudice of anything produced after 1990 topping any all time chart. Why, because no great music has been made ever since? Does an album really have to be at least 30 years old to be deemed the best of all time? Is it because all the leading music journalists are geezers that never got over The beatles breaking up?

That being said, I would put Nirvana's Nevermind on number one, breakthough factor included, and overall influence on music and pop culture, which Definitely maybe, with respect to brit pop, didn't acomplish.

Oh and do I see 4 albums by The beatles in the top 20? *yawn*

right-track 12-23-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 315726)
Does an album really have to be at least 30 years old to be deemed the best of all time?

Well it would help to include them in the overall picture, when it comes down to a best of all time chart.
I'd say the average 18 year old with a modicum of taste, would be able to pick at least 20 albums before even considering 'Definately Maybe'.
Really these charts shouldn't include the term, "all time", in them.
To do so, only makes it laughable and hard to take seriously, judging by some of the albums included in that list.

shiftael 12-23-2006 04:35 PM

I love the Srokes and I sorta liek the Libertines, but in to 20 of all time?!?!?!?!?
Puh-lease...

[MERIT] 12-23-2006 05:10 PM

They put "OK Computer" ahead of "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Nevermind". I can take nothing they say seriously.

Seltzer 12-23-2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315744)
They put "OK Computer" ahead of "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Nevermind". I can take nothing they say seriously.

I would put OK Computer ahead of those two as well. However, I would not put it ahead of various other PF albums like Meddle and Wish You Were Here.


I prefer Low to the David Bowie album they listed.

I would say the 'best' Led Zeppelin album could go any way to be honest, so I don't dispute IV being up there. Practically all their albums are elite.

I do like the Strokes, but they shouldn't be up there.

I find it laughable that Definitely Maybe is rated that high (but yeah I know... opinions lollercopter).

As for me, after listening to an amazingly large amount of music (I'm heading on 500 GB in music/concerts), my favourite album ever is still Blood Sugar Sex Magik (RHCP).

[MERIT] 12-23-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer (Post 315838)
I would put OK Computer ahead of those two as well.

However, I would not put it ahead of various other PF albums like Meddle and Wish You Were Here.

OK Computer was OK (pardon the pun), but to say thats its better than DSOTM or Nevermind is laughable.

tdoc210 12-23-2006 09:01 PM

*shrugs* never listened to radiohead

[MERIT] 12-23-2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mamagarmr (Post 315849)
*shrugs* never listened to radiohead

well apparently theyre better than nirvana, pink floyd, the clash, sex pistols, and led zeppelin. who knew? :laughing:


(that list sucks d*ck)

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-23-2006 09:25 PM

Right lets go through the whole list...

1. 'Definitely Maybe' - Oasis
Good , but should be about 50 places lower

2. 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' - The Beatles
Most over rated album of all time

3. 'Revolver' - The Beatles
My favourite Beatles album , but nothing with Yellow Submarine should be this high.

4. 'OK Computer' - Radiohead
Worthy of it`s placing

5. '(What's The Story) Morning Glory?' - Oasis
Should be about 100 places lower

6. 'Nevermind' - Nirvana
One trick pony

7. 'The Stone Roses' - The Stone Roses
Genius , but most people outside the UK hate it or don`t appreciate the impact it had.

8. 'Dark Side Of The Moon' - Pink Floyd
Not even Pink Floyds best album

9. 'The Queen Is Dead' - The Smiths
Although I don`t like them I don`t think they ever did an album that can be considered one of the best , they were a better singles band

10. 'The Bends' - Radiohead
Good but dated

11. 'The Joshua Tree' - U2
Sh*t

12. 'London Calling' - The Clash
Token punk entry

13. 'The Beatles (The White Album)' - The Beatles
Half this album is utter rubbish

14. 'Abbey Road' - The Beatles
Can we have some different bands please , I`d rather have Pet Sounds here & I hate Pet Sounds apart from 2 songs.

15. 'Up The Bracket' - The Libertines
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You can tell this is an NME poll

16. 'Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols' - Sex Pistols
Not as good as Metal Box

17. 'Four Symbols (Led Zeppelin IV)' - Led Zeppelin
:banghead: Lazy journalism

18. 'The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars' - David Bowie

I can think of 4 Bowie albums better than this

19. 'A Night At The Opera' - Queen
Overblown pompous rubbish

20. 'Is This It' - The Strokes
F*ck off

[MERIT] 12-23-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track (Post 315701)
4. 'OK Computer' - Radiohead
10. 'The Bends' - Radiohead
11. 'The Joshua Tree' - U2
20. 'Is This It' - The Strokes

Lets play "spot the f*ck-ups"
Shall I go first?
:laughing:

Chronotub 12-24-2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315851)
well apparently theyre better than nirvana, pink floyd, the clash, sex pistols, and led zeppelin. who knew? :laughing:


(that list sucks d*ck)

to be fair, they piss on nirvana and the sex pistols

Alo 12-24-2006 04:59 AM

You can't open up an NME or Q magazine without Noel or Liam jumping up in your face. So I'm not really surprised.

Melkor 12-24-2006 05:10 AM

Best album eva!!11!! is Iron Maiden's 'Number of the Beast', considering its influence, but my top 5 are:

1) Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera.
2) Gamma Ray - Rebellion in Dreamland.
3) Rhapsody - Symphony of Enchanted Lands (Part 2).
4) Kamelot - The Fourth Legacy.
5) Nightwish - Century Child.

EDIT: ****, this wasn't an opinions thread. Apologies.

Mr Sensitive 12-24-2006 09:20 AM

NME are so predictable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay
They put "OK Computer" ahead of "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Nevermind". I can take nothing they say seriously.

Ok Computer >>> Dark Side of the Moon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nevermind

coffeeshop 12-24-2006 09:37 AM

So where was Sonic Youth on the list? ;)

Actually that list is much better than most NME lists I have seen and that's the sad thing about it.

Friday 12-24-2006 09:41 AM

At least they put London Calling ahead of Nevermind The Bollocks, but really, apart from that I agree with most of what you've all just said. The Nme is an awful magazine these days though. Sad but true.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronotub (Post 315939)
to be fair, they piss on nirvana and the sex pistols

Radiohead is pure f@ggotry. Saying theyre better than Nirvana or Sex Pistols is a clear indicator of downs syndrome (no offense of course).

Friday 12-24-2006 09:46 AM

I'd take The Holy Bible over Nevermind any day of the week.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 09:48 AM

Nevermind=better album than OK Computer
Nirvana=more influential than Radiohead
Nirvana=better band than Radiohead
Good music>lame-o Radiohead sh*t

Mr Sensitive 12-24-2006 09:50 AM

Lol, I'd take Pablo Honey over Nevermind, and that's one awful album.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay
Nevermind=better album than OK Computer
Nirvana=more influential than Radiohead
Nirvana=better band than Radiohead
Good music>lame-o Radiohead sh*t

:laughing:

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 09:51 AM

^care to elaborate whats so bad about Nevermind? or better yet, whats so good about OK Computer?

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 09:51 AM

Wow some people have really bought into this Nevermind hype.

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 315989)
Wow some people have really bought into this Nevermind hype.

Dont patronize me Richard. Nevermind is exponentially better than OK Computer.

Friday 12-24-2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315984)
Nevermind=better album than OK Computer
Nirvana=more influential than Radiohead
Nirvana=better band than Radiohead
Good music>lame-o Radiohead sh*t

Nevermind is much too repititive as an album. Bashing out the same chords just with a different few lines sung by Kurt. OK Computer was a huge step from The Bends.

I dont think you can judge influence of 90s bands just yet. I think it'll be a good ten years before the 90s children start making music.

No point putting an argument for the last two points seeing as they are just pure opinion.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 09:54 AM

Nevermind is simplistic guitar rock that loses it`s appeal with every listen.

OK Computer is multi layered and has a wider canvas of influences that stands up to repeated listening.

Mr Sensitive 12-24-2006 09:56 AM

Aye, what they said.

God I'm a slow typer.

Friday 12-24-2006 09:56 AM

Agreed with Urban Hatemonger

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-24-2006 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 315990)
Dont patronize me Richard. Nevermind is exponentially better than OK Computer.

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

A fan of Fozzy is lecturing me about what good music is.


There , now THAT is patronizing you

[MERIT] 12-24-2006 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 315993)
Nevermind is simplistic guitar rock that loses it`s appeal with every listen.

OK Computer is multi layered and has a wider canvas of influences that stands up to repeated listening.

I think youre completely backwards on this whole thing. Radiohead has a wider canvas of influence? Thats better than almost single-handedly starting the grunge movement? I hate Radiohead. They sound like a Coldplay cover band who sucks even worse (and yes, I realize Radiohead came first). Im just gonna agree to disagree.


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