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sarah_noir 03-08-2007 02:14 PM

Drugs And Music - Your Views
 
Hi Im doing research for my dissertation about why some music genres have certain drugs asssociated with them and would like your views on the subject.

What, if any, drugs do you/have you taken to what genre of music, why did you take them, if you think any genres of music have had drug use change over time etc please let me know your views.

Also if you know of any other online forums I should ask these questions to please let me know. If you have anything else to add just contact me by my email address below.

Cheers, Sarah.

sahabaha@hotmail.com

Kevorkian Logic 03-08-2007 04:20 PM

Here:
Bill Hicks:See I think, drugs have some ddone good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us. Do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your CDs, and burn them. 'Cause you know what? The musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Reeeeeeeal ****ing high on drugs.--Today young men on acid realized that alll matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one conciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.-



Loser 03-08-2007 04:22 PM

I would link grunge music with drugs with the death of andy wood lead singer of Mother Love Bone and Malfunkshun and the death of Layne Staley and Kurt Cobain not to mention the countless other addictions that must've took plave.

Maddest_Hatter 03-08-2007 04:31 PM

Well... Drugs are being used by musicians? Wow!

I always wondered about:

The Gratedul Dead
The Doors
The Rolling Stones
The Beatles
Pink Floyd
Guns N Roses
Led Zepplin
The Yardbirds
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
Layne Stanley (God rest his soul!)

All kinding aside, there are far fewer musicians that don't do some sort of drug than ones that don't. IMO

TheUsedToolguy 03-08-2007 05:30 PM

Oddly enough, the members of Pink Floyd claimed to have never used drugs. That's the last band I would have expected that from, especially if you've heard Umma Gumma

tdoc210 03-08-2007 06:13 PM

^ lol they were on acid, are you kididng me, barret was always high

TheUsedToolguy 03-08-2007 06:55 PM

Barrett, may have been, but I'm talking about the members once Roger Waters came along, like, ya know, if you watch The Wall you wouldn't think sober people could have been anywhere near the making of it.

Kevorkian Logic 03-08-2007 07:13 PM

I can see people who have used drugs before/mentally ill people making the wall.

Sneer 03-08-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 346733)
Barrett, may have been, but I'm talking about the members once Roger Waters came along, like, ya know, if you watch The Wall you wouldn't think sober people could have been anywhere near the making of it.

i assume you mean dave gilmour since waters was a founding member? drugs are very important to music. they heighten your senses and consequently intensify the creativity. Rave was an aural detailing of an being off your head on ecstacy, psychedelia was the representation of an acid trip, and early VU was the projection of reed and cales heroin habit. Drugs are a big influence.

TheUsedToolguy 03-08-2007 07:29 PM

I love the ifluence drugs have had on music, except for ecstasy and rave. The techno craze had to be the worst music in history, because while there were a few good bands, they were very few and far between, and most techno is so repetitive and also mind bogglingly annoying.

Moon Pix 03-09-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 346747)
i assume you mean dave gilmour since waters was a founding member? drugs are very important to music. they heighten your senses and consequently intensify the creativity. Rave was an aural detailing of an being off your head on ecstacy, psychedelia was the representation of an acid trip, and early VU was the projection of reed and cales heroin habit. Drugs are a big influence.

I always thought they more into amphetamines. I read something Reed said about never having used heroin when he wrote the first album and that during his time at the Factory he used to take so many amphetamines he only slept for 3 hours a week.

ShoLeigh84 03-09-2007 04:58 AM

I think drugs have defo influenced some of the greatest music of all time.:afro: Has anyone noticed how downhill the Chilli Peppers have gone since they cleaned up? And Marilyn Manson?! It's sad to admit I guess but drugs give you a different view in the world, make you think in a different way. They're called mind opening for a reason. I listen to rock/metal and I smoke weed but that's not why I smoke weed. I smoke it cos I like to be mellow and rock music helps with that too. Just like some ravers take E - it gives you energy and they need it dancing to that music! (I would never take anything chemical myself) So I suppose different genres do go with different drugs. I wonder if any composers like Beethoven were on drugs?...;)

either/or 03-09-2007 08:51 AM

i like to take exstacy to the happy mondays and certain tracks off hail to the thief.

smoke weed to sigur ros and radiohead again. oh and do nitrous oxide to radiohead. nothing compares to that, i once did a whippet standning up listening to sit down stand up and during a fast bit i passed out and fell into my dogs water bowl.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-09-2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 346733)
Barrett, may have been, but I'm talking about the members once Roger Waters came along, like, ya know, if you watch The Wall you wouldn't think sober people could have been anywhere near the making of it.

Have you heard Atom Heart Mother?
A total dogs dinner of an album I have a feeling if it wasn`t for drugs that album would be very very different.You never know it may have even been better (no really difficult in the circumstances.

As for the drugs are better arguement i`d like to throw this in....

Frank Zappa - Drug free & teetotaller his whole life.

Britney Spears & Robbie Williams - Currently in rehab.

ShoLeigh84 03-09-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 346881)
As for the drugs are better arguement i`d like to throw this in....

Frank Zappa - Drug free & teetotaller his whole life.

Britney Spears & Robbie Williams - Currently in rehab.

Hehe!:laughing: Good point! (I loathe Britney) Look at Elvis, he died on the toilet cos of drugs! (legal drugs but drugs none the less)

sleepy jack 03-09-2007 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 346881)
Have you heard Atom Heart Mother?
A total dogs dinner of an album I have a feeling if it wasn`t for drugs that album would be very very different.You never know it may have even been better (no really difficult in the circumstances.

As for the drugs are better arguement i`d like to throw this in....

Frank Zappa - Drug free & teetotaller his whole life.

Britney Spears & Robbie Williams - Currently in rehab.

I doubt Britney Spears has much artistic control over her music, and I doubt she has the talent to make it also. I agree though.

TheUsedToolguy 03-09-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 346747)
i assume you mean dave gilmour since waters was a founding member? drugs are very important to music. they heighten your senses and consequently intensify the creativity. Rave was an aural detailing of an being off your head on ecstacy, psychedelia was the representation of an acid trip, and early VU was the projection of reed and cales heroin habit. Drugs are a big influence.

I am curious, though, what role did Roger Waters play in the band prior to Barrett's death, guitarist?

sarah_noir 03-13-2007 09:59 AM

Ok another question: Have the actions of any particular bands/artists influened your views and behaviour regarding drugs? Have you taken any drug or acted a certain way specifically because a famous person has?

Link the drugs to the music, put as many genres of music as you think is applicable:

Weed
Ecstacy
Amphetamines (such as speed or base)
Cocaine
Ketamine
Heroin


Really appreciate your help on this, keep the replies coming!! Sarah.

riseagainstrocks 03-13-2007 11:44 AM

Drugs + Music = most of my weekends.

Moon Pix 03-13-2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_noir (Post 348877)
Amphetamines (such as speed or base)

Definitely punk rock. Its probably part of the reason they were all so damn aggressive.

beat yr own KID 03-13-2007 01:31 PM

Listen to a silver mount zion and take a hit of acid. That's all I'm sayin.

Kevorkian Logic 03-13-2007 03:56 PM

acid isn't worth it...

Merkaba 03-13-2007 10:24 PM

I love the idea of drugs and music. I'm not overly interested in whether an artist has taken them when they make music but just the whole idea of a trippy journey filled piece of music really floats my boat. If thats the artists intentions than great but if it's not it's even better. I like to think that the unintentionally trippy songs are the best because even the artist hasn't thought about where it's meant to be going.

I hardly ever take drugs yet a lot of the music I listen to just sort of takes me away anyway, I guess. Dopesmoker by Sleep, it's rediculous the amount of noise that is present there yet I pick up a rhythm in amongst all the noise and it's great. I also love the last 4 or 5 minutes of the Spaceship Landing song by Kyuss. Stuff by Hawkwind is particularly awesome, it's just psychedelic through and through.

I find I always sit there and think how awesome it would be to be on something and listening to the song, but even then it's still great.

lk_rider 03-14-2007 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarah_noir (Post 346639)
Hi Im doing research for my dissertation about why some music genres have certain drugs asssociated with them and would like your views on the subject.

What, if any, drugs do you/have you taken to what genre of music, why did you take them, if you think any genres of music have had drug use change over time etc please let me know your views.


Also if you know of any other online forums I should ask these questions to please let me know. If you have anything else to add just contact me by my email address below.

Cheers, Sarah.

sahabaha@hotmail.com

I smoke weed and I’ll explain what my feeling when I smoked well and playing/hearing music. Simple introduction about me; I’m not a musician but play guitar in very basic stage. Never done music as a subject and I just after this because of interest in music.

Smoking weed

1. Give me relax mind to listen carefully anything
2. Gives me the ability of hearing tiny music parts in the chorus
3. Gives me the ability to capture exact chords and when I’m listening and following chords of a song
4. Gives me the ability to sing well, my voicing is pitching well
5. Gives me to ability of creativity thinking/playing
6. And after smoking weed I can’t hear heavy rock or anything hurting my ears.

Drinking alcohol

1. Can sing loud (no idea about pitching) and can dance till drop
2. Heavy metal music stuff are welcome LOL…

hope this will help you!

sarah_noir 03-14-2007 10:47 AM

Yeah this is great, exactly what I am looking for thank you. Have you ever tried a drug or acted in a way because a famous musician has?

Also does anyone know of any other good sites like this that loads of people go on and I can post some questions on?

DaliDally06 03-14-2007 01:17 PM

you cant have passionate music without consumption............

sarah_noir 03-14-2007 02:24 PM

Why do you think that is? And what genres of music go with what drugs and why?Have you ever been influenced by a bands actions?

ShoLeigh84 03-14-2007 02:59 PM

I think it's because drugs open your eyes and your mind to new perspectives which help your creative juices flow! Stereotypically lsd would go with Jimmi, weed with rock and E with dance but that's not always so, anyone can be into any music and may or may not take drugs. Just like people can write good music with no drug influence. I've never been influenced by a bands actions, I like to make my own choices and discover things my way.

TheUsedToolguy 03-14-2007 04:30 PM

that's cool, that's the way I would do it,
I used to take them on occasion, and I would say it was much more decided by peer pressure. I didn't care what bands were doing it. A lot of my friends I hung around with were pretty smart people and they did it, so I figured it wouldn't hurt me. I'm not saying I'm proud of it.

cardboard adolescent 03-14-2007 07:05 PM

all genres of music go with drugs because drugs make all music sound better. and yes, i have been influenced by some musicians in regards to drug use, cobain, gg allin, etc have kept me off heroin

lk_rider 03-15-2007 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_noir (Post 349186)
Yeah this is great, exactly what I am looking for thank you. Have you ever tried a drug or acted in a way because a famous musician has?

Also does anyone know of any other good sites like this that loads of people go on and I can post some questions on?

here what I got..

ganjagurus dot com

ganjaforum dot com

I'll update you if I found some more... as a favor... please update all of us about the result of ur research... :p:

riseagainstrocks 03-15-2007 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic (Post 348937)
acid isn't worth it...

It is if you know what you're doing.

And Adam, ASMZ on LSD really was the most intense experiance I've ever had. It was so beautiful and haunting.

NaNaNer 03-15-2007 10:16 AM

1. Yes Acid is worth it...but its a dieing drug...
2.Music and Drugs go hand in hand..due to lifestyle...and expression.
3.Artists..not just musicians have been known to do drugs..due to the belief that drugs expand your mind...and that is personal belief..science has yet to prove it.

I have done all the drugs I have done to most the music I listen to..I listen to all kinds..country,classical, hip-hop,jazz..etc...and most are enjoyed while smoking pot...

Dropping fry tends to make most people..me...want to listen to trance..techno...dance..stuff that is easy to move to..due to the body high acid gives...makes ya wanna dance...rememeber the videos of hippies waving about their arms and dancing around one another...

Smoking dope...often makes me wanna to jam to something heavier..something with screaming vocals..heavy guitar...heavy percussion...cause speed makes everything go fast...

Eating shrooms...the only thing I can ever really get into is..4 Non Blondes..strange...

Popping pills...anything and everything..because its such a routine drug for me...its like smoking pot....

TheUsedToolguy 03-15-2007 11:22 AM

I'll add 311 is probably the best band I've listened to while high on pot.
Acid is a tough one because I've had good trips and I've had bad trips. A lot of people equate acid with a deep religious experience, because when you do it with people, it bares your soul, and sheds your ego, so you can see the person for who they really are. After that the doors of perception seem to open up a little.

Kevorkian Logic 03-15-2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 349611)
It is if you know what you're doing.

And Adam, ASMZ on LSD really was the most intense experiance I've ever had. It was so beautiful and haunting.

no doubt it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. I saw musical notes, they were like these beautiful colors floating through the air, bending and melting together to form this perfect entity.

Occasionally I dwell on the idea of doing it again, but there were too many bad after effects for my blood.

NaNaNer 03-16-2007 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic (Post 349862)
no doubt it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. I saw musical notes, they were like these beautiful colors floating through the air, bending and melting together to form this perfect entity.

Occasionally I dwell on the idea of doing it again, but there were too many bad after effects for my blood.

Science has proven that LSD..doesnt make things appear that werent there to begin with..thins can appear in color..that arent..things that are small..can appear big..things that are big can appear small..objects like Pizza's...can look as though they are growing and breathing...

And dirty acid will make ya hurt..your spine...and even make you feel weak..queasy...bit good quality fluff...should be a clean high and a free comdown...it should just leave you with a "happines hang over" until you falls asleep.

TheUsedToolguy 03-16-2007 09:52 AM

hmmm,
even with the good trips, I had a pretty rough comedown. I knew a guy who had a vial of acid in his car, and got pulled over by the cops. Apparently, possession of 1 hit of acid is equivalent to one count of manslaughter, if convicted. Well, he had around 100 hits, in liquid form, so he drank it as soon as he pulled over. He didn't get arrested, but needless to say he had an interesting night after that, and yes, remarkably, he's still alive.

NaNaNer 03-16-2007 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 350198)
hmmm,
even with the good trips, I had a pretty rough comedown.

No..you misread what I wrote...good trips arent equivalent to good clean fluff...you can have an amazing trip on dirty poorly made fry...but clean and better quality fluff..especially white...does not have a "rough" comedown.

TheUsedToolguy 03-16-2007 10:52 AM

No, I read it right. I was just surprised to know that all the stuff I had was dirty.

NaNaNer 03-16-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUsedToolguy (Post 350238)
No, I read it right. I was just surprised to know that all the stuff I had was dirty.

You have to take into consideration..locale,age and availability.

Acid isnt as popular as it once was..back in the day..it was widely avaible..but not real clean..its main purpose was to give you a good trip..

With the onset of "designer drugs" and XTC...people soon found out..that you could filter the crap out of LSD and make it cleaner....but at the same time..no one was taking it...so it started to be harder and harder to get...

Now..people dont manfucture it as they used to..it comes with some heavy penalties if caught...plus..its not popular...so..the stuff you come by isnt as dirty as some..but definately not as clean...

It could be clean all but one part this or minus part that..and that will make for some back aches the next day...


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