Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

DoctorSoft · 03-20-2011, 06:56 PM

I think Star****er are kind of underrated.

~~The Virgin~~ · 03-21-2011, 12:51 AM

Mariah Carey. She's the most overrated singer in the whole world. I don't know what happens during her album recordings, but everytime she performs live, she disappoints me. In terms of recordings, she can very well compete head to head with Whitney Houston or Celine Dion. But during live performances? Hell, pitchy, out of tune J-lo can even give her a run for her money.

Bgile · 03-24-2011, 01:16 PM

I havent read the whole thread so forgive me if these guys were already mentioned but Mute Math is incredibly underrated in my opinion. Their first album is phenomenal. If you all havent heard anything from them I strongly suggest giving them a listen.

Average Cabbage · 04-08-2011, 09:27 PM

Overrated - sex pistols, muse, mumford and sons, paramore, mcr, 30 seconds to mars

Underrated - Love, Jonathan Richman, Lou Reed, 13th Floor Elevators, The Fall

TockTockTock · 04-08-2011, 09:48 PM

Lou Reed and Love are actually praised on a regular basis. Both are among some of my favorite musicians though, and definitely deserve that praise.

Average Cabbage · 04-08-2011, 10:40 PM

Lou had one hit, walk on the wild side, that wasn't even 'really a hit'. Berlin was a commercial failure too, even as far as being named a disaster by Rolling Stone magazine (who later included it in a top album list? about 300ish?).

Love are not referenced half as much as the other 60's psychedelic groups, not half as much as groups such as The Doors or Jefferson Airplane (two bands I also listen to regularly). Also, Arthur Lee's death was not anywhere near as widely reported as other 60's icons such as Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin and close friend Jimi Hendrix.

TockTockTock · 04-09-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Average Cabbage

Lou had one hit, walk on the wild side, that wasn't even 'really a hit'. Berlin was a commercial failure too, even as far as being named a disaster by Rolling Stone magazine (who later included it in a top album list? about 300ish?).

Love are not referenced half as much as the other 60's psychedelic groups, not half as much as groups such as The Doors or Jefferson Airplane (two bands I also listen to regularly). Also, Arthur Lee's death was not anywhere near as widely reported as other 60's icons such as Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin and close friend Jimi Hendrix.

Commercial success has little to do with the praise they receive. Music critics cite Lou Reed all the time - especially with his work in the Velvet Underground. You also need to learn that (at least in my opinion) The Rolling Stone is awful. I've seen them flipflop on their music review countless times (MC5's work comes to mind). Not to mention they leave out a substantial amount of musical artists (a lot of them being experimental - aside from VU, Captain Beefheart, and a few others).

Love's album, Forever Changes, is also cited a few times as being influential/brilliant, but their other albums are rarely ever mentioned. So, I'll give it to you that they have been in the shadow of The Doors and Jefferson Airplane. It is also a painful thought that Arthur Lee is relatively ignored when the topic of skilled lyricists of that era is brought up. I definitely think he ranks amongst those such as Jim Morrison, Lou Reed, Townes Van Zandt, and Bob Dylan.

Howard the Duck · 04-09-2011, 08:32 AM

i never really gotten the love for Love

and i don't read The Ruling Stoned

starrynight · 04-09-2011, 03:23 PM

I think Love has become more famous over the last two decades even if previous to that they hadn't been given enough praise. I'm glad that they managed to get more recognition while the main band members were still alive.

Average Cabbage · 04-10-2011, 09:22 PM

Would you not agree that the majority of the public's preference (as opposed to solely the opinions of music critics), as indicated by sales, for Jefferson Airplane over Love (excluding Forever Changes) and other seventies artists over Lou Reed makes Love and Lou Reed underrated in comparison (in particular the albums Da Capo and Berlin in my opinion)?

Even though Transformer was praised, the rest of his solo work has not appealed to people anywhere near as much. The most common opinion regarding Lou Reed's post-Transformer career is expressed in Sick Boy's quote in the film Trainspotting - “Well, at one time, you've got it, and then you lose it, and it's gone forever. All walks of life: George Best, for example. Had it, lost it. Or David Bowie, or Lou Reed.” Personally, I have enjoyed every Lou Reed album I own, including Metal Machine Music which in my opinion is underrated too.

I agree, The Rolling Stone is awful. I appreciate anyone spreading that message. I heard of it's initial criticism of Berlin from an interview somewhere. However, the opinions expressed in The Rolling Stone are still relevant for many people, making it as valid as any other opinions, despite my own personal dislike for it's ****ty lists. Lou Reed and Love = Underrated in my opinion.

03-20-2011, 06:56 PM	#581 (permalink)
DoctorSoft Rocket Appliances Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,335	I think Star****er are kind of underrated.

03-21-2011, 12:51 AM	#582 (permalink)
~~The Virgin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cebu, Philippines Posts: 677	Mariah Carey. She's the most overrated singer in the whole world. I don't know what happens during her album recordings, but everytime she performs live, she disappoints me. In terms of recordings, she can very well compete head to head with Whitney Houston or Celine Dion. But during live performances? Hell, pitchy, out of tune J-lo can even give her a run for her money.

03-24-2011, 01:16 PM	#583 (permalink)
Bgile Groupie Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1	I havent read the whole thread so forgive me if these guys were already mentioned but Mute Math is incredibly underrated in my opinion. Their first album is phenomenal. If you all havent heard anything from them I strongly suggest giving them a listen.

04-08-2011, 09:27 PM	#584 (permalink)
Average Cabbage Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The North Of England Posts: 6	Overrated - sex pistols, muse, mumford and sons, paramore, mcr, 30 seconds to mars Underrated - Love, Jonathan Richman, Lou Reed, 13th Floor Elevators, The Fall

04-08-2011, 09:48 PM	#585 (permalink)
TockTockTock They/Them Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,914	Lou Reed and Love are actually praised on a regular basis. Both are among some of my favorite musicians though, and definitely deserve that praise.

04-08-2011, 10:40 PM	#586 (permalink)
Average Cabbage Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The North Of England Posts: 6	Lou had one hit, walk on the wild side, that wasn't even 'really a hit'. Berlin was a commercial failure too, even as far as being named a disaster by Rolling Stone magazine (who later included it in a top album list? about 300ish?). Love are not referenced half as much as the other 60's psychedelic groups, not half as much as groups such as The Doors or Jefferson Airplane (two bands I also listen to regularly). Also, Arthur Lee's death was not anywhere near as widely reported as other 60's icons such as Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin and close friend Jimi Hendrix.

04-09-2011, 08:32 AM	#588 (permalink)
Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	i never really gotten the love for Love and i don't read The Ruling Stoned

04-09-2011, 03:23 PM	#589 (permalink)
starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	I think Love has become more famous over the last two decades even if previous to that they hadn't been given enough praise. I'm glad that they managed to get more recognition while the main band members were still alive.

04-10-2011, 09:22 PM	#590 (permalink)
Average Cabbage Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The North Of England Posts: 6	Would you not agree that the majority of the public's preference (as opposed to solely the opinions of music critics), as indicated by sales, for Jefferson Airplane over Love (excluding Forever Changes) and other seventies artists over Lou Reed makes Love and Lou Reed underrated in comparison (in particular the albums Da Capo and Berlin in my opinion)? Even though Transformer was praised, the rest of his solo work has not appealed to people anywhere near as much. The most common opinion regarding Lou Reed's post-Transformer career is expressed in Sick Boy's quote in the film Trainspotting - “Well, at one time, you've got it, and then you lose it, and it's gone forever. All walks of life: George Best, for example. Had it, lost it. Or David Bowie, or Lou Reed.” Personally, I have enjoyed every Lou Reed album I own, including Metal Machine Music which in my opinion is underrated too. I agree, The Rolling Stone is awful. I appreciate anyone spreading that message. I heard of it's initial criticism of Berlin from an interview somewhere. However, the opinions expressed in The Rolling Stone are still relevant for many people, making it as valid as any other opinions, despite my own personal dislike for it's ****ty lists. Lou Reed and Love = Underrated in my opinion.