Ian Curtis Film - Control (lyrics, trance, magazine, review)

jackhammer · 10-07-2007, 06:12 PM

The general ending we all know, You described the cinematic ending.I'm still disappointed.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-07-2007, 06:25 PM

The real ending is he's replaced by John Barnes

right-track · 10-08-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer

The general ending we all know, You described the cinematic ending.I'm still disappointed.

My description of the cinematic ending didn't do it justice.
It'll still be a genuinely poignant and moving moment...guaranteed.

@Urban...that Clash film any good?
Seen it yet?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-08-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

@Urban...that Clash film any good?
Seen it yet?

Still waiting for it to arrive.

Damn postal strikes

right-track · 10-08-2007, 12:32 PM

You're mention of it was the first I'd heard about this film.
Anything about Strummer gets my interest.
I remember seeing him play with the Mescaleros at the Academy in (I think) the November. A month later, he was dead.

arob · 10-20-2007, 08:27 PM

The new new movie Control chronicles the rise of Joy Division and the demise if the lead singer, Ian Curtis. This guy is epileptic, addicted to cigarettes and torn between two women. He is having an EMO crises.

Sam Riley plays Ian Curtis and he's hot. Samantha Morgan plays his wife and she is hot too. The movie is directed by AntonCorbijn and I suppose he is also hot - it was based on a book by Deborah Curtis (Ian's wife).

The best part of this movie is of course the music - which is early Joy Division which is to say early New Order. Here are the boys locked in the Manchester scene in England in the late 1970s and influenced by the Sex Pistols and the Buzzcox.

right-track · 10-21-2007, 03:44 AM

Not everyone who suffers from depression caused by a variety of reasons, of which his medication probably played no small part, is having an "Emo crisis".
Whether or not he was addicted to cigarettes, has no bearing on the film, or his personality whatsoever.
I really don't know why you felt the need to add that bit of incidental and useless information.

The best part of the movie isn't the music, but the fact that it's about Ian Curtis.
The music of course is an added bonus, as is the cinematography, which is stunning.
They were not influenced by the Sex Pistols nor the Buzzcocks, but were of course inspired by them.
Their influences were drawn from earlier artists such as David Bowie and Iggy Pop, among others.

Why am I being a bit harsh and picky with the above member?
The emo comment irritated me no end!
Coupled with an early morning hangover.

To take a pseudo and pretentious modern day slapped arsed mindset such as emo and render it onto a 1970's, genuinely troubled Mancunian man, is nothing short of criminal.
arob...your lucky you weren't banned.

Did you enjoy the film?

Has anybody else seen it yet?

adidasss · 10-21-2007, 04:49 AM

I don't believe it'll be playing here....so I'll have to wait for the torrent...

arob · 10-21-2007, 07:03 AM

The movie Control, which chronicles the rise of Joy Division and the demise of Ian Curtis has about twelve amazing scenes. The very best scene is however when the band is waiting to go on stage - they are nervously sequestered in the green room while a spoken word poet named John Cooper Clarke entertains the audience with poetry. Can you imagine? The poetry must have been really good huh? Well yes - the poetry is excellent actually...

Here is the portion that was heard in the movie...

Evidently Chickentown

the bloody pies are bloody old
the bloody chips are bloody cold
the bloody beer is bloody flat
the bloody flats have bloody rats
the bloody clocks are bloody wrong
the bloody days are bloody long
it bloody gets you bloody down
evidently chicken town
the bloody train is bloody late
you bloody wait you bloody wait
you're bloody lost and bloody found
stuck in ****ing chicken town

right-track · 10-21-2007, 07:21 AM

This video shows a train pulling out of Oxford Road station Manchester.
Point of interest is the Hacienda building @55 or (-1.08) seconds. (corner building with white entrance)
Also, I'm almost certain Joy Division did the tracking music.

The original lyrics for Chicken Town...swap bloody for fucking.

John Cooper Clarke lyrics - Evidently Chickentown.

The bloody cops are bloody keen
to bloody keep it bloody clean
the bloody chief's a bloody swine
who bloody draws a bloody line
at bloody fun and bloody games
the bloody kids he bloody blames
are nowehere to be bloody found
anywhere in chicken town

the bloody scene is bloody sad
the bloody news is bloody bad
the bloody weed is bloody turf
the bloody speed is bloody surf
the bloody folks are bloody daft
don't make me bloody laugh
it bloody hurts to look around
everywhere in chicken town
the bloody train is bloody late
you bloody wait you bloody wait
you're bloody lost and bloody found
stuck in ****ing chicken town

the bloody view is bloody vile
for bloody miles and bloody miles
the bloody babies bloody cry
the bloody flowers bloody die
the bloody food is bloody muck
the bloody drains are bloody ****ed
the colour scheme is bloody brown
everywhere in chicken town

the bloody pubs are bloody dull
the bloody clubs are bloody full
of bloody girls and bloody guys
with bloody murder in their eyes
a bloody bloke is bloody stabbed
waiting for a bloody cab
you bloody stay at bloody home
the bloody neighbors bloody moan
keep the bloody racket down
this is bloody chicken town

the bloody pies are bloody old
the bloody chips are bloody cold
the bloody beer is bloody flat
the bloody flats have bloody rats
the bloody clocks are bloody wrong
the bloody days are bloody long
it bloody gets you bloody down
evidently chicken town
the bloody train is bloody late
you bloody wait you bloody wait
you're bloody lost and bloody found
stuck in ****ing chicken town

10-07-2007, 06:12 PM	#31 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	The general ending we all know, You described the cinematic ending.I'm still disappointed. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

10-07-2007, 06:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The real ending is he's replaced by John Barnes __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-20-2007, 08:27 PM	#36 (permalink)
arob Groupie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 7	Joy Division movie Control is Emo stravaganza The new new movie Control chronicles the rise of Joy Division and the demise if the lead singer, Ian Curtis. This guy is epileptic, addicted to cigarettes and torn between two women. He is having an EMO crises. Sam Riley plays Ian Curtis and he's hot. Samantha Morgan plays his wife and she is hot too. The movie is directed by AntonCorbijn and I suppose he is also hot - it was based on a book by Deborah Curtis (Ian's wife). The best part of this movie is of course the music - which is early Joy Division which is to say early New Order. Here are the boys locked in the Manchester scene in England in the late 1970s and influenced by the Sex Pistols and the Buzzcox.

10-21-2007, 04:49 AM	#38 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	I don't believe it'll be playing here....so I'll have to wait for the torrent... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

10-21-2007, 07:03 AM	#39 (permalink)
arob Groupie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 7	Best part of Control is James Cooper Clarke's poem The movie Control, which chronicles the rise of Joy Division and the demise of Ian Curtis has about twelve amazing scenes. The very best scene is however when the band is waiting to go on stage - they are nervously sequestered in the green room while a spoken word poet named John Cooper Clarke entertains the audience with poetry. Can you imagine? The poetry must have been really good huh? Well yes - the poetry is excellent actually... Here is the portion that was heard in the movie... Evidently Chickentown the bloody pies are bloody old the bloody chips are bloody cold the bloody beer is bloody flat the bloody flats have bloody rats the bloody clocks are bloody wrong the bloody days are bloody long it bloody gets you bloody down evidently chicken town the bloody train is bloody late you bloody wait you bloody wait you're bloody lost and bloody found stuck in ****ing chicken town

10-08-2007, 12:32 PM	#35 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	You're mention of it was the first I'd heard about this film. Anything about Strummer gets my interest. I remember seeing him play with the Mescaleros at the Academy in (I think) the November. A month later, he was dead.

10-21-2007, 03:44 AM	#37 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Not everyone who suffers from depression caused by a variety of reasons, of which his medication probably played no small part, is having an "Emo crisis". Whether or not he was addicted to cigarettes, has no bearing on the film, or his personality whatsoever. I really don't know why you felt the need to add that bit of incidental and useless information. The best part of the movie isn't the music, but the fact that it's about Ian Curtis. The music of course is an added bonus, as is the cinematography, which is stunning. They were not influenced by the Sex Pistols nor the Buzzcocks, but were of course inspired by them. Their influences were drawn from earlier artists such as David Bowie and Iggy Pop, among others. Why am I being a bit harsh and picky with the above member? The emo comment irritated me no end! Coupled with an early morning hangover. To take a pseudo and pretentious modern day slapped arsed mindset such as emo and render it onto a 1970's, genuinely troubled Mancunian man, is nothing short of criminal. arob...your lucky you weren't banned. Did you enjoy the film? Has anybody else seen it yet?

10-21-2007, 07:21 AM	#40 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	This video shows a train pulling out of Oxford Road station Manchester. Point of interest is the Hacienda building @55 or (-1.08) seconds. (corner building with white entrance) Also, I'm almost certain Joy Division did the tracking music. The original lyrics for Chicken Town...swap bloody for fucking. John Cooper Clarke lyrics - Evidently Chickentown. The bloody cops are bloody keen to bloody keep it bloody clean the bloody chief's a bloody swine who bloody draws a bloody line at bloody fun and bloody games the bloody kids he bloody blames are nowehere to be bloody found anywhere in chicken town the bloody scene is bloody sad the bloody news is bloody bad the bloody weed is bloody turf the bloody speed is bloody surf the bloody folks are bloody daft don't make me bloody laugh it bloody hurts to look around everywhere in chicken town the bloody train is bloody late you bloody wait you bloody wait you're bloody lost and bloody found stuck in **ing chicken town the bloody view is bloody vile for bloody miles and bloody miles the bloody babies bloody cry the bloody flowers bloody die the bloody food is bloody muck the bloody drains are bloody ed the colour scheme is bloody brown everywhere in chicken town the bloody pubs are bloody dull the bloody clubs are bloody full of bloody girls and bloody guys with bloody murder in their eyes a bloody bloke is bloody stabbed waiting for a bloody cab you bloody stay at bloody home the bloody neighbors bloody moan keep the bloody racket down this is bloody chicken town the bloody pies are bloody old the bloody chips are bloody cold the bloody beer is bloody flat the bloody flats have bloody rats the bloody clocks are bloody wrong the bloody days are bloody long it bloody gets you bloody down evidently chicken town the bloody train is bloody late you bloody wait you bloody wait you're bloody lost and bloody found stuck in **ing chicken town