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View Poll Results: Which album do you like better?
Radiohead "In Rainbows" 58 71.60%
The White Stripes "Icky Thump" 23 28.40%
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:10 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Don't play stupid. You tried to say you hadn't heard of half the bands that were not only on the radio, they were posted about here.
Urban even admitted only the bands I mentioned got much radio play.

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Now you're dodging an argument because you're losing. Just admit that you're not going to get anyone here with a clue to admit that The White Stripes suck and go post about how you love bands based on FBI files.
I guess thats why I've been stating and expanding on my points and you've been making snide comments right?
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:15 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Urban even admitted only the bands I mentioned got much radio play.



I guess thats why I've been stating and expanding on my points and you've been making snide comments right?
They got radio play, but as I've already stated, they can't play 5 bands all day long. They have to farm from some musical cache. So what they played yesterday won't get thrown out. But they started a shift in the industry that stopped those abnds from moving the kind of sales and cash flow that had agents jumping all voer them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, you're argument is: The stripes had no significant impact because Seether is releasing a new album? and need I remind you of the "compliment" you gave to the stripes for getting rid of Nickleback, Seether, and friends and family?
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:19 PM   #73 (permalink)
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They got radio play, but as I've already stated, they can't play 5 bands all day long. They have to farm from some musical cache. So what they played yesterday won't get thrown out. But they started a shift in the industry that stopped those abnds from moving the kind of sales and cash flow that had agents jumping all voer them.
Um, you said all the bands Urban mentioned got radio play you realize he mentioned a lot more than 5 right? I pulled out the only 5 I'd even heard of, 5 which weren't that successful especially in comparison to Linkin Park.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, you're argument is: The stripes had no significant impact because Seether is releasing a new album? and need I remind you of the "compliment" you gave to the stripes for getting rid of Nickleback, Seether, and friends and family?
No my argument is the White Stripes didn't kill post-grunge because A: It was around before and after "Fell In Love with a Girl" and "Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground" (the songs you cited as the killers of it) and B: there were bands and genres that got much more radio play (bumping post-grunge off the frequently played list) than "garage rock" bands like the Strokes, Stripes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, etc.
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:23 PM   #74 (permalink)
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So you're suggesting that you can pin-point what bumped off PG, when it bumped it off, and that it in fact was not The White Stripes?

And I've explained why you would still hear PG after those songs came out. i've explained what "killed it" meant and I'm wondering when you'll acknowledge those qualifications and give up the ghost of trying to prove me wrong.

again, SLTS was allegedly what killed hair metal, I can turn on modern rock radio and hear kick start my heart. Is that blowing your mind right now? Since you can seem to wrap it around what i'm saying.
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Old 12-22-2007, 07:53 PM   #76 (permalink)
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So you're suggesting that you can pin-point what bumped off PG, when it bumped it off, and that it in fact was not The White Stripes?

And I've explained why you would still hear PG after those songs came out. i've explained what "killed it" meant and I'm wondering when you'll acknowledge those qualifications and give up the ghost of trying to prove me wrong.

again, SLTS was allegedly what killed hair metal, I can turn on modern rock radio and hear kick start my heart. Is that blowing your mind right now? Since you can seem to wrap it around what i'm saying.
*sigh* You're ignoring half my posts and what I'm saying and only using stuff to make it sound I'm spitting ignorance. I've named dates, talked about the 'garage rock' movement the stripes kick started and it's effect on mainstream music. I've posted about bands and named singles and whatnot that were more successful and more of a movement and played on the radio more. I've cited stuff and explained my points, yet you ignore all that. You've just been running around making snide comments, riding up on your high horse and when you do come up with something legitimate to post, like how after a movement is dead bands can be successful you basically ignore everything I say and beat that to death. I'm aware after something is 'killed' it can still get played on the radio, but you have Nickelbacks, Seethers, Breaking Benjamins, Three Day Graces, Puddle of Mudds, Future Leads of the Worlds, etc that all still get attention, it's never been much of a movement but it isn't dead yet. Oh, Faith No More did more in "killing" hair metal did than Nirvana did anyway, they started the whole alternative-rock movement of the 90s basically which is what really killed hair metal.

I don't think one band can effectively kill a genre that was a trend, they can kick start it but it's the movement that actually kills it and if the White Stripes movement consisted of a few bands who weren't even that successful after their few hits and nu-metal had tons of bands, Cold, Static X, Slipknot, KoRn, Linkin Park, etc. It was a giant, quivering mass, whilst a few hip kids put a Strokes record on and pretended they were in the MC5.

I don't really know what "hell" you are even talking about, maybe you were just listening to alot of it but the rest of the world wasn't. They would rather have listened to angry white boy rap at the time then something that was so obviously over (I mean post-grunge? That's not the name of a hip radio movement is it?) Maybe it dominated your radio, but that's just down to your own lack of musical depth at the time. I lived near Seattle and I managed to avoid hearing much post-grunge because it wasn't on the radio aside from the occasional hit song. Now I did hear alot of grunge when I'd listen to the alternative station but that's to be expected seeing as Seattle hasn't really gotten over the fact Cobains dead. Now I realize you're going to go on about how wrong this is but the simple fact is this. There was no post-grunge hell for the white stripes to deliver us from, Rage Against the Machine did that while KoRn was shitting out hit records and Fred Durst was sitting in his diamond studded pool.
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Wait a god damned minute, you just said that post-grunge is all over the radio and you still hear it constantly.

Now you're saying you managed to avoid it back when it was more popular than it is now?

I'm not making it look like you're spitting ignorance, you are.
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Wait a god damned minute, you just said that post-grunge is all over the radio and you still hear it constantly.

Now you're saying you managed to avoid it back when it was more popular than it is now?

I'm not making it look like you're spitting ignorance, you are.
When did I say that? I listed several post-grunge bands that in probably the past two years or so have gotten radio play but I never said anything about it being constantly. Oh and congrats on bitching at me for 'dodging arguments' and only replying to a bit of what I said, well actually you didn't even reply to a bit of what I said because if you did than it would actually be what I said.

EDIT: Also the word would be "contradiction" not "ignorance."
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Oh and congrats on bitching at me for 'dodging arguments' and only replying to a bit of what I said
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well actually you didn't even reply to a bit of what I said because if you did than it would actually be what I said.

Look I've made my point, and you've made both sides of each of the points. You don't think the white stripes did a damn thing, and that their recycled to the degree that you claim Zepp is. Both of which I find to be absurd.

I disagree completely, and happen to stick with the position I had when I originally posted. Do what you want, "state" what you want. My peace was said.
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Look I've made my point, and you've made both sides of each of the points. You don't think the white stripes did a damn thing, and that their recycled to the degree that you claim Zepp is. Both of which I find to be absurd.

I disagree completely, and happen to stick with the position I had when I originally posted. Do what you want, "state" what you want. My peace was said.
Where did I say either? You're putting words into my mouth (but what's new?). I was arguing that nu-metal did more in killing post-grunge but then when I thought about it post-grunge really wasn't much to kill at all seeing as it's never been a huge genre, certainly enough enough to be a "hell" we need to be delivered from.

I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with what I say but I have a problem with how you seem scared to back up your own statements because all you do is wave your internet cock around and make petty comments that serve no purpose. You spend more time trying to take out little bits of arguments, petty bits, than actually debating the stuff relevant to what you originally stated. You aren't prepared to discuss your opinion to any extent and don't really have any logical argument to back up your comments or if you do you keep it to yourself.
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