General 2008 Discussion (albums, beatles, Nirvana, Paul McCartney, Coldplay)

Expletive Deleted · 03-22-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

It's pretty good, but not as good as BLNL. The best thing ever is the new Raconteurs...

Ew, Raconteurs!

In Ghost Colours isn't as good, but BLNL is a pretty strong album to have to live up to. Besides, maybe I'm just a C/C fangirl, but I get a totally different vibe from IGC, and don't really compare the two.

adidasss · 03-22-2008, 11:02 AM

I've only listened to it twice but it seems to have a few duds in the middle. But whatever, it's actually a pleasant surprise, they have such a specific sound I was afraid it'd get old the second time around. Turns out I was wrong...electro-pop

mr. goth glam · 03-22-2008, 11:20 AM

You know, all this time, I've only heard one Raconteurs song, and I can't even remember what it was.

I should do something about that.

sleepy jack · 03-22-2008, 11:57 AM

I'd like to take this moment to ask how come when Jack White blatantly rips off a song no one cares?

sleepy jack · 03-22-2008, 12:44 PM

Steady As She Goes is a pretty blatant rip off of Is She Really Going Out With Him? Just with distortion.

adidasss · 03-22-2008, 01:20 PM

It's just the bassline...hardly a blatant rip-off...

Rainard Jalen · 03-23-2008, 02:37 PM

I honestly believe that musicians lift lines without even realizing it. When you reach the point that you've listened to so much music, parts of songs start coming to mind and you're killing yourself to try to remember where it originated from often with little success.

I have a personal experience with having lifted something. My story goes like this: it was 2005 and I hadn't listened to Nirvana probably in about 12 years. I was writing a song and I came up with what I thought was this really great opening guitar line. Only late last year did I realize that it wasn't original after listening to In Utero and hearing Heart Shaped Box again. Bingo, that's where I had got it from - my line was not identical but very very close. It was lodged deep somewhere in my mind so much so that it could spontaneously occur to me such that I could deceive myself into thinking I created it.

Paul McCartney interestingly was worried about the exact same thing when he came up with Yesterday. He recalled composing the melody in a dream, and playing it immediately after waking up in order not to forget it. But due to this, he was worried for months that he'd unconsciously plagiarized it. He played it to people all over the record industry to make sure that it wasn't the case, and finally, since nobody claimed it, he kept it for himself.

Could happen to any musician and I bet it frequently does. I come across curiously similar melodies all the time, especially recently after listening to some old Beatles albums again. I was listening to "Help" 1965, and I came across the song It's Only Love. The melody of the chorus is remarkably similar to part of Grizzly Bear's He Hit Me from last year. I'd bet my bottom dollar the songwriter got the melody from having heard that Beatles song at some point in his life.

Verdict: probably accidental, even in really suspicious cases.

EDIT: Well, except Led Zep - that's clearly blatant rip-off-ahoy!

Comus · 03-23-2008, 04:00 PM

New mars volta has already made all other music obsolete.

ProggyMan · 03-23-2008, 04:02 PM

No...

chartsengrafs · 03-23-2008, 04:25 PM

i've only seen one good review out of between five or ten reviews for bedlam. haven't yet listened to it myself though. hopefully it's better than amputechture

03-22-2008, 11:02 AM	#112 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	I've only listened to it twice but it seems to have a few duds in the middle. But whatever, it's actually a pleasant surprise, they have such a specific sound I was afraid it'd get old the second time around. Turns out I was wrong...electro-pop __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-22-2008, 11:20 AM	#113 (permalink)
mr. goth glam Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waverly, VA. Posts: 406	You know, all this time, I've only heard one Raconteurs song, and I can't even remember what it was. I should do something about that. __________________

03-22-2008, 01:20 PM	#116 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	It's just the bassline...hardly a blatant rip-off... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-23-2008, 02:37 PM	#117 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	I honestly believe that musicians lift lines without even realizing it. When you reach the point that you've listened to so much music, parts of songs start coming to mind and you're killing yourself to try to remember where it originated from often with little success. I have a personal experience with having lifted something. My story goes like this: it was 2005 and I hadn't listened to Nirvana probably in about 12 years. I was writing a song and I came up with what I thought was this really great opening guitar line. Only late last year did I realize that it wasn't original after listening to In Utero and hearing Heart Shaped Box again. Bingo, that's where I had got it from - my line was not identical but very very close. It was lodged deep somewhere in my mind so much so that it could spontaneously occur to me such that I could deceive myself into thinking I created it. Paul McCartney interestingly was worried about the exact same thing when he came up with Yesterday. He recalled composing the melody in a dream, and playing it immediately after waking up in order not to forget it. But due to this, he was worried for months that he'd unconsciously plagiarized it. He played it to people all over the record industry to make sure that it wasn't the case, and finally, since nobody claimed it, he kept it for himself. Could happen to any musician and I bet it frequently does. I come across curiously similar melodies all the time, especially recently after listening to some old Beatles albums again. I was listening to "Help" 1965, and I came across the song It's Only Love. The melody of the chorus is remarkably similar to part of Grizzly Bear's He Hit Me from last year. I'd bet my bottom dollar the songwriter got the melody from having heard that Beatles song at some point in his life. Verdict: probably accidental, even in really suspicious cases. EDIT: Well, except Led Zep - that's clearly blatant rip-off-ahoy! Last edited by Rainard Jalen; 03-23-2008 at 02:44 PM.

03-23-2008, 04:25 PM	#120 (permalink)
chartsengrafs Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: oahu, hawaii Posts: 148	i've only seen one good review out of between five or ten reviews for bedlam. haven't yet listened to it myself though. hopefully it's better than amputechture __________________ sunny days should leave a message on my phone.

03-23-2008, 04:02 PM	#119 (permalink)
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