50 Albums That Changed Music (or not) (pop, punk, reggae, rock)

MURDER JUNKIE · 12-11-2007, 12:14 PM

The 50 albums that changed music | Review | The Observer

Okay here's the rules:

I don't give a shit which ones you agree with, but which ones do you disagree with and why??

Please try to be polite in this thread and keep the mod work to a minimum

teshadoh · 12-11-2007, 12:39 PM

The Strokes -

I can imagine they felt the need to include an album from this decade, just as they chose obligatory picks from other varoius music genres. But besides it being difficult to gauge the influence in such a short period of 6 years, I don't find anything the Strokes did to be that original. I especially don't see the connection to Franz Ferdinand, which along with Bloc Party were influence more by the rebirth / rehashing of 80's new wave & particularly the band the Police (who were not listed).

Dizzys in the wolf · 12-12-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by teshadoh

The Strokes -

I can imagine they felt the need to include an album from this decade, just as they chose obligatory picks from other varoius music genres. But besides it being difficult to gauge the influence in such a short period of 6 years, I don't find anything the Strokes did to be that original. I especially don't see the connection to Franz Ferdinand, which along with Bloc Party were influence more by the rebirth / rehashing of 80's new wave & particularly the band the Police (who were not listed).

The strokes have influenced a very high percentage of English Indie bands since they started, and those bands would not exist if it had not been for them and their influence. If it was not for The Strokes and The White Stripes guitar music would still be on the decline except for nu metal bands like Papa Roach and the like. I think they are pretty vital as a band that changed music.

I do not agree with Patti Smith, Although I am a fan of hers I don't think she changed music in any way along with Nirvana. Although they gave people an easy way in to grunge music or heavier music they only really opened the door to what was already there rather than changing music itself.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-12-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzys in the wolf

The strokes have influenced a very high percentage of BAD English Indie bands since they started,

My opinion on the matter

jackhammer · 12-11-2007, 01:03 PM

LFO. I would have substituted that with U.F.Orb by The orb. Much more influential.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-11-2007, 01:17 PM

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18 The Clash
London Calling (1979)

The best record to come out of punk, or punk's death knell? On this double album, The Clash fused their rockabilly roots with their love of reggae, moving away from the choppy snarls of the scene that birthed them. This was the album that legitimised punk - hitherto a stroppy fad - into the rock canon. Its iconic cover, and songs about the Spanish Civil War brought left-wing politics firmly into musical fashion.

Without this ... would the west have come to love reggae, dub and ragga quite so much? We certainly would have no Manic Street Preachers ... or Green Day, or Rancid ... or possibly even Lily Allen.

They make the Clash never existing sound appealing

sleepy jack · 12-11-2007, 01:23 PM

They do the same thing to Radiohead.

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38 Radiohead
The Bends (1995)

Without this ... Coldplay would not exist, nor Keane, nor James Blunt.

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4 NWA
Straight Outta Compton (1989)

Without this ... no Eminem, no 50 Cent, no Dizzee Rascal.
KE

That's an insult to NWA becuase it makes that album seem like a bad thing.

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19 Mary J Blige
What's the 411? (1992)

Without this ... no R&B/soul divide, which means no TLC, Beyonce, or Ashanti, to name just three.

WHY DIDN'T SOMEONE STOP HER!?

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21 The Spice Girls
Spice (1996)

Without this ... five-year-olds would not have become a prime target for pop marketeers. Most of all, there'd be no Posh'n'Becks.
NS

I'm sorry but are they serious?

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47 Nirvana
Nevermind (1991)

Without this ... no Seattle scene, no Britpop, no Pete Doherty.
KE

How do they figure that last one out? The first one makes me laugh, Seattle has had plenty of scenes before and after grunge, grunge wasn't even the greatest one.

~~mjscarousal~~ · 12-11-2007, 03:36 PM

The list is not that bad. I've seen worse lists but the placements are WACK!!! Some of the commentary on the artists the albums influenced are retarded to.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-11-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

How do they figure that last one out? The first one makes me laugh, Seattle has had plenty of scenes before and after grunge, grunge wasn't even the greatest one.

Actually grunge did have an effect on Britpop. After Cobain died nobody could face having to listen to Pearl Jam so we started looking around to see what bands were on our own doorstep.

sleepy jack · 12-11-2007, 03:45 PM

Well I'll be damned =o

12-11-2007, 12:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
MURDER JUNKIE The Wetter The Better!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SH1TTY London Ontario Canada Posts: 2,484	50 Albums That Changed Music (or not) The 50 albums that changed music \| Review \| The Observer Okay here's the rules: I don't give a shit which ones you agree with, but which ones do you disagree with and why?? Please try to be polite in this thread and keep the mod work to a minimum

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	LFO. I would have substituted that with U.F.Orb by The orb. Much more influential. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

12-11-2007, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
teshadoh Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 94	The Strokes - I can imagine they felt the need to include an album from this decade, just as they chose obligatory picks from other varoius music genres. But besides it being difficult to gauge the influence in such a short period of 6 years, I don't find anything the Strokes did to be that original. I especially don't see the connection to Franz Ferdinand, which along with Bloc Party were influence more by the rebirth / rehashing of 80's new wave & particularly the band the Police (who were not listed).

12-11-2007, 03:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
~~mjscarousal~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 106	The list is not that bad. I've seen worse lists but the placements are WACK!!! Some of the commentary on the artists the albums influenced are retarded to.