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08-11-2008, 08:41 AM | #21 (permalink) | |||
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And speaking of people who brought world music to mainstream American and European ears, why is there nothing by Taj Mahal on this list? Quote:
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08-11-2008, 09:27 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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Anyone could make a better list with little effort.
And their reasoning for the Spice Girls is retarded. IMO these are the worst ommissions. ITCOTK - Crimson pretty much defined progressive rock with this album as well as introducing classical and symphonic elements to rock music like no one had before. Tommy - Pretty much popularized the concept album and rock opera, pomp rock owes a lot to this. Remain in Light - I'm sorry but wasn't this the definitive new wave album? Freak Out - C'mon now. Van Halen - Ok, pretty much starting the whole glam metal thing is not really a positive thing, but impact is impact. Another Green World - This would have been a better choice for Eno. Low - Why in the hell should Trans Europe Express get all the credit? |
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I think glam metal was in full sway before Van Halen came along. I've never been a big glam fan, but I know there were earlier bands. And Zeppelin started it, btw. They made it okay to be flamboyant rockers. But it was more their stage presence than any given album, so I dunno.
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08-11-2008, 01:21 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Glam metal didn't really come into it's own until the 80s and Van Halen had already been around for a little while by then. And they were a huge influence on it, as were a bunch of bands like The New York Dolls, Kiss and as you mentioned, Led Zeppelin.
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08-11-2008, 01:28 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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That's who I was forgetting. Even if they had a lot of proto-punk influences, they were one of the first glam rock bands to showcase their flamboyance.
The New York Dolls - s/t (1973)
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08-11-2008, 02:56 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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Just about all of their "without this, there would have been no..." claims were insane. Right, without Kraftwerk, electronic music never would have existed. Without (one of) the pioneers, it never would have occurred to anyone. By that reasoning, Chuck Berry should be atop the list. Without his music, all guitar-driven rock and pop never would have happened.
The Spice Girls selection was silly. It's like they felt they were being very clever, "You thought the Spice Girls were empty and inconsequential pop, but in fact they were massively influential." They manage to undercut their own reasoning at each turn. Cynical marketing-driven pop groups had existed for decades...but the Spice Girls are influential for that. "Girl power" was a cynical, male-created gimmick (which was well understood all along)...but the Spice Girls empowered a generation of girls. If they wanted to go the route of "pop group created for marketing reasons," they should have gone with the Monkees. They would have ended up with far better music in their list, to boot. Also, what irony using the "empowered girls" argument for the Spice Girls and then ranking Kate Bush below the Spice Girls. Bush was far more empowering and far more influential. There are a number of good picks, but the ordering and reasoning are fairly silly. Also, Led Zeppelin is a big omission. Possibly overrated in the US and underrated in Europe, Zeppelin was still massively influential to rock as a whole, and the biggest pioneer of metal and hard rock (though Black Sabbath deserves mention too). |
08-11-2008, 03:00 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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They're not going to promote Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath while none of the voters actually listen to metal.
Blah blah blah bland corporate garbage accounts for 90% of the list. I'm starting to regret resurrecting this...
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