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Old 08-03-2007, 07:21 PM   #321 (permalink)
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Because John Lennon didn't write all the songs that made Beatlemania(Which was more marketing than anything).
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:02 PM   #322 (permalink)
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Absolutely not. The early Beatles songs were much more collaborative. She Loves You and I Want To Hold Your Hand were both collaborations. Many of their other hits like We Can Work It Out, Eight Days A Week and Day Tripper were as well.

But if we were to devide the rest of their number hit singles by the primary songwriter.

Mccartney:
Can't Buy Me Love
Things We Said Today
She's A Woman
I'm Down
Eleanor Rigby
Penny Lane
Hello Goodbye
Lady Madonna
Hey Jude
Get Back
Let It Be
Love Me Do
P.S. I Love You
And I Love Her
Got to Get You into My Life


Lennon:
I'll Get You
You Can't Do That
A Hard Days Night
I Feel Fine
Ticket To Ride
Yes It Is
Help!
Strawberry Fields Forever
All You Need Is Love
I Am The Walrus
Revolution
Don't Let Me Down
The Ballad of John & Yoko
Come Together
I Should Have Known Better
If I Fell
Nowhere Man

Lennon had a few more hits. But both were equally successful songwriters. To argue over who was more important is stupid and a waste of time.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:59 PM   #323 (permalink)
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Lennon had a few more hits. But both were equally successful songwriters. To argue over who was more important is stupid and a waste of time.
I agree. I mean at least they actually write their own music unlike some bands these days.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:22 PM   #324 (permalink)
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So you agree with me.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:04 AM   #325 (permalink)
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Lennon had a few more hits. But both were equally successful songwriters. To argue over who was more important is stupid and a waste of time.
I definitely disagree that Lennon had more hits, though I agree that to argue over who was more important is a waste of time. Both have millions of devoted fans who think their man is the best, and nothing is going to change their minds.
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I definitely disagree that Lennon had more hits, though I agree that to argue over who was more important is a waste of time. Both have millions of devoted fans who think their man is the best, and nothing is going to change their minds.
I meant with The Beatles, solo material notwithstanding.

But maybe I'm unfair for including b-sides as well.

One thing that can be said is that none of Lennons songs are as popular as McCartneys Yesterday or Hey Jude.
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I believe I Want to Hold Your Hand spent the most combined weeks at #1 of any Beatles song. But by their own admission, that was a joint effort.
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No, he actually did help with some of the songwriting, people need to get off the 'its cool to hate Ringo' train and realize he did contribute, and even if he didn't who cares? Most drummers don't write songs.
I don't hate Ringo, AND I don't care. Which does nothing to change the hard fact he contributed almost nothing in the way of songwriting. Not to mention he was only a mediocre drummer.
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I meant with The Beatles, solo material notwithstanding. But maybe I'm unfair for including b-sides as well.
One thing that can be said is that none of Lennons songs are as popular as McCartneys Yesterday or Hey Jude.
I disagree either way, whether talking about the Beatles years only, or including their solo years.

Lennon's solo career was anemic. The Plastic Ono Band SUCKED.

Lennon fanboys love to claim that he dominated the songwriting in the early Beatles days, but that's pure BS. Most of the songs on their debut album that turned out to be hits, were written primarily by Paul:

Love Me Do
P.S. I Love You
I Saw Her Standing There

"Please Please Me" was mostly John's song, and his only relevant one on the entire album.
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I don't hate Ringo, AND I don't care. Which does nothing to change the hard fact he contributed almost nothing in the way of songwriting. Not to mention he was only a mediocre drummer.
How many times does it need to be stated, he DID write songs, therefore he DID contribute to the songwriting, christ and I believe it was already debated on his drumming skills. I wish people weren't so dertermined to hate Ringo.
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