What genre is in control right now??? (indie, pop, rock)

Rainard Jalen · 01-21-2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

I'm generally pretty open towards different tastes, but I really don't understand contemporary R&B. Old R&B was good, but the newer version is possibly the most generic music ever written.

Yeah, it is true - personally I see them as different genres, not two sides of the same coin. "Contemp R&B" is just urban pop: the mellow, laid-back beats of hiphop infused with a dose of lame pop divaship, or worse, the likes of Akon, T-Pain and Ne-Yo.

If one played some old rhythm and blues to a bunch of kids exposed only to urban contemp, they'd have no idea that they were listening to something that was also once termed "rhythm and blues". This to me shows that attempts to group them under a single umbrella are dubious, tenuous at best. Hell, modern r&b listeners don't even RESPECT old r&b. I've never come across an urban contemp station willing to play, every now and then, a 60s/70s r&b track. That's because they realize it just doesn't fit in with their sound at all. Modern rock stations by contrast will always be happy to play an old classic here and there.

Frewen · 01-21-2008, 01:43 AM

Um, hard-bop? It's all Bud Powell these days (I wish)!

ProggyMan · 01-21-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Yeah, it is true - personally I see them as different genres, not two sides of the same coin. "Contemp R&B" is just urban pop: the mellow, laid-back beats of hiphop infused with a dose of lame pop divaship, or worse, the likes of Akon, T-Pain and Ne-Yo.

If one played some old rhythm and blues to a bunch of kids exposed only to urban contemp, they'd have no idea that they were listening to something that was also once termed "rhythm and blues". This to me shows that attempts to group them under a single umbrella are dubious, tenuous at best. Hell, modern r&b listeners don't even RESPECT old r&b. I've never come across an urban contemp station willing to play, every now and then, a 60s/70s r&b track. That's because they realize it just doesn't fit in with their sound at all. Modern rock stations by contrast will always be happy to play an old classic here and there.

What happened to Akon making time capsules of modern music?

Rainard Jalen · 01-21-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

What happened to Akon making time capsules of modern music?

He's still at it. They're just not very good.

ProggyMan · 01-21-2008, 12:31 PM

So it was a hoax. Especially with your Nickelback comments.

tkpb938 · 01-21-2008, 04:49 PM

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and country is never in control,

Errr.... Idk I think I remember hearing some statistic where country blew any other genre out the window in terms of radio air play.

mr. goth glam · 01-21-2008, 08:18 PM

Yeah, but country's consistent.

It has a market that almost never changes, except when someone breaks into the mainstream for their fifteen minutes of people pretending they haven't heard that crap a million times before.

icebox · 01-22-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

It's contemp r&b and pop rap in the main, with a bit of pop punk/pop rock here and there. Just as it's been since the early nineties.

yeah.. i think that's really true these days..

Zer0 · 01-22-2008, 03:00 AM

Hip Hop is dead, it died in the early 90's. Everything else that followed was mainstream ****e.

djchameleon · 01-22-2008, 05:53 AM

dammit Nas. See what you have everyone doing quoting that BS line about "hip hop is dead" when they have no clue what they are talking about. hip hop is still alive, kicking and doing well.....just because you can't look past the ring tone rappers and mainstream garbage to find it then that's on you.

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mr. goth glam Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waverly, VA. Posts: 406	Yeah, but country's consistent. It has a market that almost never changes, except when someone breaks into the mainstream for their fifteen minutes of people pretending they haven't heard that crap a million times before. __________________

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Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	Hip Hop is dead, it died in the early 90's. Everything else that followed was mainstream **e. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound**

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Frewen Justin Broadrick Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 151	Um, hard-bop? It's all Bud Powell these days (I wish)!

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ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	So it was a hoax. Especially with your Nickelback comments.

01-22-2008, 05:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
djchameleon A.B.N. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NY baby Posts: 11,455	dammit Nas. See what you have everyone doing quoting that BS line about "hip hop is dead" when they have no clue what they are talking about. hip hop is still alive, kicking and doing well.....just because you can't look past the ring tone rappers and mainstream garbage to find it then that's on you.