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Old 05-02-2011, 05:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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when I kiss Your Lips...
...I feel the rolling thunder to my finger tips
and all the while my head is in a spin...
...deep within I'm in Love

You're my everything...
...and nothing really matters
but the Love You bring...
...You're my everything

I need You close to me...
...You're my everything
You never have to worry...
...never fear for I am near

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Old 05-03-2011, 03:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought you'd like the cat story, Zaqarbal.
Yes, I liked it. And it also reminded me of this Mürfila's music video, with that kitten... (btw, she looks hotter than Bonanza's coffee pot ).

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I enjoy reading your thoughtful translations (...)
Thank you very much! I'm glad someone appreciates my work. If you knew how difficult to translate a song is!! Sometimes it's like a mental torture, really. I know that a "lost in translation" result is almost inevitable (Italians say: traduttore, traditore, which means "translator, traitor"), but I always get neurotically involved when translating a song. I lose my mind trying to find the most accurate words, consulting bilingual dictionaries, synonyms dictionaries, etc. It's about to convey meanings, ideas, feelings, emotions... not just words. And that's really, really, very difficult. Besides, the rhyme cannot be "translated". For instance, apart from its superb music, Sidonie (one of my fave bands) is notable for its rhyming lyrics. Like these:

"Tus huesos son ................................ Your bones are
un arrecife de cristal ................................ a crystal reef
en un océano ................................ into an ocean
de carne ideal. ................................ of ideal flesh.
Mis ojos derraman ................................ My eyes shed
oro líquido en el mar ................................ liquid gold on the sea
y te coronan ................................ and crown
la cabeza de coral. ................................ your head with coral.
"

That's the kind of thing that I always wanted to say to all my platonic loves (if possible, during some summer holidays in the French Riviera). But with the rhyme it sounds even better! Sadly, as I said, rhyme cannot be "translated". That's why I use to post the original lyrics together with their translation.

Well, here you are, one of the best Sidonie's love songs, made under a blessed musical influence from The Beatles. Costa Azul ("French Riviera", 2007):



♫ "Tus huesos son ................................ Your bones are
un arrecife de cristal ................................ a crystal reef
en un océano ................................ into an ocean
de carne ideal. ................................ of ideal flesh.
Mis ojos derraman ................................ My eyes shed
oro líquido en el mar ................................ liquid gold on the sea
y te coronan ................................ and crown
la cabeza de coral. ................................ your head with coral.

Mutando el viento ................................ When wind changed,

la marea me arrastró; ................................ tide swept me away;
nadé en abrazos ................................ I swam with strokes
de azulada dimensión. ................................ of bluish dimension.
Creí que tus brazos ................................ I thought your arms
eran la sal de mi nación. ................................ were my nation's salt.
América es bella ................................ America is beautiful
pero naufragué en Japón. ................................ but I was shipwrecked in Japan.

En la Costa Azul, ................................ In the French Riviera,

una foto nuestra a contraluz, ................................ a photo of us taken against the light,
un beso para siempre, ................................ a kiss forever,
fundidos en cuerpos siameses. ................................ fused as siamese bodies.

Aunque de un vaso roto, ................................ Although from a broken glass,

mi boca bebió ................................ my mouth drank
la sombra del otoño ................................ the autumn's shadow
y el último adiós. ................................ and the last farewell.
Todos los mares ................................ I will put all the seas
los pondré en un jarrón, ................................ into a vase,
y nuestro verano ................................ and our summer,
enmarcado en mi salón. ................................ framed at my lounge.

En la Costa Azul, ................................ In the French Riviera,

una foto nuestra a contraluz, ................................ a photo of us taken against the light,
un beso para siempre, ................................ a kiss forever,
fundidos en cuerpos siameses. ................................ fused as siamese bodies.

En la Costa Azul, ................................ In the French Riviera,

una foto nuestra a contraluz, ................................ a photo of us taken against the light,
un beso para siempre, ................................ a kiss forever,
fundidos en cuerpos siameses. ................................ fused as siamese bodies.
" ♫

Lyrics' general meaning is good, but it's the whole (music + lyrics + rhyme...) that makes this love-song a Sidonie's masterpiece, in my opinion.


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I like the Mürfila song, too. The video should be used as a Public Service Announcement to teach the principle that "Crime Doesn't Pay!" The couple in the video made a very nice couple...up until they started getting their thrills and turn-ons from stealing other people's things as if that somehow made them more free.
Well, you know, music-video directors are strongly influenced by Cinema. And since Bonnie and Clyde, that kind of couples are very popular too: Steve McQueen and Ali MacGraw in The Getaway, Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette in True Romance, etc. Nevertheless, I think there's a beautiful "poetic connection" between song and video:

Song, through a female voice (Mürfila), says: "without you, / people ask me / what day I died. / And I answer: / since you decided to go away from here". At videoclip, the boy dies and the girl decides to go away, which apparently is the opposite thing. But if you see it as a metaphor, it's not. It's the same thing: Sometimes, a person is no longer the same, when the beloved disappears from his/her life (for several possible reasons). So, in a way, we could say that he/she dies as a certain personality. And the association between death and leaving is a classic topic in Western literature (and art in general). At a popular level too. In fact, dead people are called "the departed".
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there You are...
...in the early light of day
there You are...
...in the quiet words I pray
I've been Blessed...by the simple happiness...
...of the perfect Love We've made

every time I turn around...
...when I'm lost and when I'm found
like an Angel standing guard...
...there You are

every time I take a breath...
...and when I forget to breathe
You're watching over me...
...there You are

when I'm looking for the light...
...in the middle of the night
searching for the brightest star...
...there You are

there You are...
...standing in a crowded room
there You are...
...the Earth and I'm the Moon
my Desire is to stand by the Fire...
...that burns inside of You

every time I turn around...
...when I'm lost and when I'm found
like an Angel standing guard...
...there You are

every time I take a breath...
...and when I forget to breathe
You're watching over me...
...there You are

when I'm looking for the light...
...in the middle of the night
searching for the brightest star...
...there You are

there You are...
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Old 05-04-2011, 02:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Time for Italian now. Ti amo ("I love You") is a well-known song by Umberto Tozzi.



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♫ "Ti amo ................................ I love you
un soldo ................................ a single
ti amo ................................ "I love you"
in aria ................................ in air
ti amo. ................................ I love you.
Se viene testa ................................ If it goes to your head
vuol dire che basta, ................................ it means that it's over (enough)
lasciamoci. ................................ let's leave each other.

(Ti amo) ................................ (I love you)
io sono ................................ I am
(ti amo) ................................ (I love you)
in fondo un uomo ................................ deep down a man
che non ha freddo nel cuore. ................................ who is not cold in his heart .

Nel letto comando io. ................................ In bed I command (I call the shots)
ma tremo davanti al tuo seno. ................................ but I tremble before your bosom.
Ti odio e ti amo. ................................ I hate you and I love you

E una farfalla che muore sbattendo le ali ................................ The love that is made in bed
l'amore che a letto si fa. ................................ is a butterfly that dies beating its wings together.
Rendimi I'altra metà, ................................ Render the other half for me (be my other wing),
oggi ritorno da lei ................................ today i return to her
primo Maggio ................................ the first day of May,
su coraggio!..................get up courage!

lo ti amo e chiedo perdono. ................................ I love you and I ask forgiveness.
Ricordi chi sono. ................................ Remember who I am.
Apri la porta a un guerriero di carta igienica. ................................ Open the door to a soldier made of tissue paper.

E dammi il tuo vino leggero ................................ And give me your light bodied wine (summer wine)
che hai fatto quando non c'ero ................................ that you made when I was not there (when I was away),
e le lenzuola di lino. ................................ and the sheets of linen.
Dammi il sonno di un bambino. ................................ Give me the sleep of a child (let me sleep like a child)
che "ta" sogna cavalli e si gira ................................ who dreams of horses and spins around (a carousel)
e un po' di lavoro. ................................ and (give me) some work.
Fammi abbracciare una donna che stira cantando ................................ Let me hug a woman who sings as she irons
e poi fatti un po' prendere in giro ................................ and then let yourself be teased a little (let me tease you a little)
prima di fare I'amore ................................ before we make love.
Vesti la rabbia di pace ................................ Dress your anger with peace
e sottane sulla luce. ................................ and the light with your petticoats (dress the lamp with your petticoats).

lo ti amo e chiedo perdono. ................................ I love you and I ask forgiveness.
Ricordi chi sono. ................................ Remember who I am.
Ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo. ................................ I love you

E dammi il tuo vino leggero ................................ And give me your light bodied wine (summer wine)
che hai fatto quando non c'ero ................................ that you made when I was not there (when I was away),
e le lenzuola di lino. ................................ and the sheets of linen.
Dammi il sonno di un bambino. ................................ Give me the sleep of a child (let me sleep like a child)
che "ta" sogna cavalli e si gira ................................ who dreams of horses and spins around (a carousel)
e un po' di lavoro. ................................ and (give me) some work.
Fammi abbracciare una donna che stira cantando ................................ Let me hug a woman who sings as she irons
e poi fatti un po' prendere in giro ................................ and then let yourself be teased a little (let me tease you a little)
prima di fare I'amore ................................ before we make love.
Vesti la rabbia di pace ................................ Dress your anger with peace
e sottane sulla luce. ................................ and the light with your petticoats (dress the lamp with your petticoats)

Ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo. ................................ I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you I love you, I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo. ................................ I love you
Ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo, ti amo. ................................ I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo ................................ I love you
ti amo. ................................ I love you
" ♫


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tell me...tell me how You knew about my Heart...
...You see...see the things that no one else could see
I thought...I was doing fine until You turned my Life around...
...with everything You'd found
deep inside...I thought that I had died...

...You make me believe
when I thought that Love was gone...all gone...
...You make me believe
and You proved that Love was strong...so strong...
...You make me believe...
'cause You touched inside of me...
...something I would never have believed
until...until You conquered me...
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Love between strangers: I guess Sinatra comes to mind....




...but my favourite song about it is this one:

Presuntos Implicados: La flor de la mañana ("The Morning Flower").



♫ "Eran sólo dos extraños ................................ They were just two strangers
concediéndose deseos ................................ granting each other's wishes
como dos enamorados, ................................ like lovers do,
que vaciaron sus manos ................................ and they emptied their hands
de desengaños y miedos ................................ of disappointments and fears
y de afecto las llenaron. ................................ and fill them up with affection.

Calmaron con fresas su hambre, ................................ They eased their hunger with strawberries,
con vino su sed, ................................ their thirst with wine,
y el frío con su calor. ................................ and the cold with their warmth.
Y el sueño venció, ................................ And sleep overcame,
la mañana volvió, ................................ morning came again,
y pensaron los dos: ................................ and they both thought:

¿Qué habrá tras tu mirada, ................................ What is there behind your gaze,
que tanto oculta y tanto da? ................................ that hides and shows so many things?
Vuelve a la cama a soñar, ................................ Come back to bed and dream,
que amor que mucho piensa ................................ because a love that thinks too much
verás como comienza, ................................ shows its own beginning,
y entonces pronto acabará. ................................ so it might end up soon.
La flor de la mañana hoy ................................ Today you sowed the morning flower
sembraste en mi ventana ................................ at my window
fingiendo que fingías ................................ while you pretended to be pretending
que me amabas. ................................ to be in love with me.

Y prometieron locuras, ................................ And they promised crazy things,
y cumplieron las promesas, ................................ and they kept their promises,
y se derramó ternura, ................................ and tenderness was spilt,
y confundieron sus cuerpos ................................ and they blended their bodies
en un solo abrazo largo, ................................ in one single long hug,
como dos enamorados. ................................ like lovers do.
.
Calmaron con fresas su hambre, ................................ They eased their hunger with strawberries,
con vino su sed, ................................ their thirst with wine,
y el frío con su calor. ................................ and the cold with their warmth.
Y el sueño venció, ................................ And sleep overcame,
la mañana volvió, ................................ morning came again,
y pensaron los dos: ................................ and they both thought:

¿Qué habrá tras tu mirada, ................................ What is there behind your gaze,
que tanto oculta y tanto da? ................................ that hides and shows so many things?
Vuelve a la cama a soñar, ................................ Come back to bed and dream,
que amor que mucho piensa ................................ because a love that thinks too much
verás como comienza, ................................ shows its own beginning,
y entonces pronto acabará. ................................ so it might end up soon.
La flor de la mañana hoy ................................ Today you sowed the morning flower
sembraste en mi ventana ................................ at my window
fingiendo que fingías ................................ while you pretended to be pretending
que me amabas. ................................ to be in love with me.

La flor de la mañana hoy ................................ Today you sowed the morning flower
sembraste en mi ventana ................................ at my window
fingiendo que fingías ................................ while you pretended to be pretending
que me amabas. ................................ to be in love with me.
" ♫


I love this: "...you pretended to be pretending to be in love with me". The original sweetness (phonetics, sound, voice, cadence...) is probably "lost in translation", but I think the deepest meaning is universally understandable.

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I give to You...and You give to me...
...true Love...true Love
so on and on...it will always be...
...true Love...true Love
for You and I have a Guardian Angel...
...on high...with nothing to do
but to give to You...and to give to me...
...Love forever true

true Love...true Love...
...I give You true...true Love
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Yes, I liked it. And it also reminded me of this Mürfila's music video, with that kitten... (btw, she looks hotter than Bonanza's coffee pot ).
Hotter than Bonanza's coffee pot! Nice analogy, Zaqarbal, especially considering the kitchen scenes in the video, where the kitten was a very cute addition. I missed the kitten at the end when the bodies writhing in sexual ecstasy (or torture at its absence) took center stage. Do you know any love songs for cats?

I like how the song/video transitions from memory to real time until the separation between the two seems to disappear.

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Thank you very much! I'm glad someone appreciates my work. If you knew how difficult to translate a song is!! Sometimes it's like a mental torture, really. I know that a "lost in translation" result is almost inevitable (Italians say: traduttore, traditore, which means "translator, traitor"), but I always get neurotically involved when translating a song. I lose my mind trying to find the most accurate words, consulting bilingual dictionaries, synonyms dictionaries, etc. It's about to convey meanings, ideas, feelings, emotions... not just words. And that's really, really, very difficult. Besides, the rhyme cannot be "translated". For instance, apart from its superb music, Sidonie (one of my fave bands) is notable for its rhyming lyrics.
Yes, I can see the careful attention you put into your translations! "Traduttore, traditore" -- I like that. My guess is you aren't much of a traitor.

Translating emotion, meaning, and the feel of the words *is* a challenge. I have only tried to translate a few poems or songs from German to English, one poem being my own that I wrote when a teenager. I tried to maintain the meaning *and* the rhyme. That was difficult but fun.

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That's the kind of thing that I always wanted to say to all my platonic loves (if possible, during some summer holidays in the French Riviera). But with the rhyme it sounds even better! Sadly, as I said, rhyme cannot be "translated". That's why I use to post the original lyrics together with their translation.

Well, here you are, one of the best Sidonie's love songs, made under a blessed musical influence from The Beatles. Costa Azul ("French Riviera", 2007):



Aunque de un vaso roto, ................................ Although from a broken glass,[/I]
mi boca bebió ................................ my mouth drank
la sombra del otoño ................................ the autumn's shadow
y el último adiós. ................................ and the last farewell.
Todos los mares ................................ I will put all the seas
los pondré en un jarrón, ................................ into a vase,
y nuestro verano ................................ and our summer,
enmarcado en mi salón. ................................ framed at my lounge.

En la Costa Azul, ................................ In the French Riviera,

una foto nuestra a contraluz, ................................ a photo of us taken against the light,
un beso para siempre, ................................ a kiss forever,
fundidos en cuerpos siameses. ................................ fused as siamese bodies.
" ♫ [/CENTER]

Lyrics' general meaning is good, but it's the whole (music + lyrics + rhyme...) that makes this love-song a Sidonie's masterpiece, in my opinion.
A love song about nostalgia for platonic love! I like that. I wish "Costa Azul" translated as "azure coast" because I feel that is much nicer than "French Riviera." "Azure" is one of my favorite words.

There aren't many love songs about platonic love, are there? And yet platonic love is so powerful and often so lasting that one would think it would be the subject of more songs...especially since, in my opinion, platonic love is the basis of any love. Can you think of many more love songs about deep platonic love?

I especially like the lines you translated about putting the seas in a vase and the summer framed as a picture. Those lyrics remind me of all the little bits and pieces of shells and sticks and leaves I saved when I was a child because they became my treasures connecting me with other places and times...with memory. My little treasures are bittersweet, since they can't replace the reality.

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Well, you know, music-video directors are strongly influenced by Cinema. And since Bonnie and Clyde, that kind of couples are very popular too: Steve McQueen and Ali MacGraw in The Getaway, Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette in True Romance, etc. Nevertheless, I think there's a beautiful "poetic connection" between song and video:

Song, through a female voice (Mürfila), says: "without you, / people ask me / what day I died. / And I answer: / since you decided to go away from here". At videoclip, the boy dies and the girl decides to go away, which apparently is the opposite thing. But if you see it as a metaphor, it's not. It's the same thing: Sometimes, a person is no longer the same, when the beloved disappears from his/her life (for several possible reasons). So, in a way, we could say that he/she dies as a certain personality. And the association between death and leaving is a classic topic in Western literature (and art in general). At a popular level too. In fact, dead people are called "the departed".
You're right...that video does work on a metaphorical level rather than just a melodramatic one, and I overlooked that. Thanks for pointing out the connection between the lyrics and the video action.

You make the good point that death in the video *can* simply represent someone changing. I hear from divorced people that when a spouse changes and leaves you, it is worse than death, for if that person's feelings toward you *change* then you can't even really treasure the memories of when that person loved you as you wished.

Your posted nostalgic song about platonic love along the seaside made me think of two love songs about nostalgia and the sea that I like:

First, a nostaglic song about romantic (failed) love along the seaside:
Don Henley - "Boys of Summer"



Second, the ol' famous "Seasons in the Sun" song about all sorts of love...of friends, family, lover (?), children, nature...of life. When I was a child I really loved "Seasons in the Sun." Ah, love!

Terry Jacks - "Seasons in the Sun"
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I can't believe what's happened to me...
...You stepped right out of my dream
like nothing I'd ever seen...
...and I will Love You...for the rest of my life
'til forever is gone...
...You'll be the One

'cause Baby...I never thought I would say...
...that Baby...You are my night and my day

it's so right...
...when I see the Love in Your Eyes
all that I wanna do...
...Baby...is to spend my Life with You
and I know...
...as long as there is tomorrow
I'll be Loving You right from the start...
...with all my Heart
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