Wow I thought you were kidding at first about not liking Pink Moon, it's one of my favorite's. Although, Five Leaves Left is far and away my favorite Nick Drake album. One of my favorite artists.

Mastodon's Blood mountain.


I'm a fan of Mastodon, but thought Blood Mountain was boring.

I have definitely noticed that there's some characteristic element of Mastodon's sound that seems to be missing on that album. I don't find it boring per se, but I think I feel ya' on this one.

Listen to it again, it takes a while for it to sink in. I felt indifferent the first few time i listened to it, i felt a bit disappointed, then after about the 5th or 6th play it started to click. Now i love that album, it's nearly as good as Carnavas.

ugh i really liked carnavas till i listened to it like a year later. and i gave swoon a shot, didnt do anything for me.

It seems like they were trying to be a cover band of themselves and try to branch out at the same time. Fell flat for me.

okay, someone needs to explain this:

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some of the most atrocious production ever employed. why do people love this album so much?

I think simply put it's the best collection of individual songs they ever put on one album. It's not my favourite album of theirs I prefer Honey's Dead as an album but in terms of individual songs Psychocandy beats it with ease. The production is awful but I guess i've got used to it over time.

If you look at the circumstances of it's release and the timing of it (Gigs ending in riots, being the total antithesis of slick corporate 80s pop) you can see why music journalists went apeshit over it, and it did influence a hell of a lot of bands. I don't think Grunge or Shoegaze happening just a year or two later was an accident and I doubt those genres would have been anywhere near as big had Psychocandy not been the success it was.

hmm, i've always thought the songwriting on Darklands far surpassed this effort. Psychocandy may very well have been more influential but i just don't understand why it's the only surviving mainstay of JAMC's back catalogue when they put out three other solid LPs.

and as for the influence aspect, i completely agree with shoegaze but i can't see the connection to grunge. as i've always thought of it as more of a fad than a genre, there was a much longer period of evolution behind it. i suppose Psychocandy had a definite impact upon some of the same related bands, Dinosaur Jr. in particular, but that could be more ostensibly attributed to J Mascis choice of guitar and less about the songwriting.

95% of everything you say I disagree strongly with.

This however is part of that 5% and all I can say in response to this is THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

i like just like honey

...actually I think the production is the only thing good about it...otherwise they're a-ok pop songs, nothing too special. They're albums after this one are kind of mediocre. The atrociousness is what makes me dig this album.

I gave it the weekend, and while a few tracks did stand out, the album still just falls flat for me.
I'm going to pick up Carnavas next, being that I've never listend to Silversun Pickups before Swoon.

Too abrasive for you eh? :rolleyes:
I love this album, i never get tired of it. The first time i heard it the production kinda put me off a bit but something about it made me want to play it over and over again. I think the production sounds kinda cool to me now, and how could you not like Just Like Honey and Sowing Seeds?

i'll take this.



i'd say to really like it, you gotta be in a mood to listen to stoner, sludgy metal, like don't expect just pure thrash in your face like alot of other metal bands today. Mastodon's music is meant to be like it's namesake, a towering behemoth of sound. don't listen to it like you would Metallica, but moreso like you would Pink Floyd, especially in the second half

oh and i just read your other post. i feel that they really wanted to branch out and try new things. with alot of bands that do that it can take a while to really get into it. idk, i say give it another listen.

I don't know if anyone here likes it but...

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Someone recommended it to me claiming, "It's seriously a musical masterpiece. Only Moby could create it". I listened to the whole album (two disks) and I could not get into it the least bit. If there's someone on here who likes this album or Moby at all, please tell me.

the person likes moby, that should have given it away.

I had never heard of Moby before, and now I know what a waste of time he is.

Uhhh... Moby is good.

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How does anybody take this bubblegum hairmetal seriously? Axl's wails are painful, at times I think I'm listening to a kitten being raped. This album (much like the band itself) is only listenable due to Slash' random bursts of guitar brilliance. The rest of the time it's pure rubbish.

Ok, allow me to explain in full detail why I like this album.

You're wrong.

explain?

He makes quality music. Can't really explain in past that :/

That's a shame.
If someone were to make a complete point I would give him another chance.
Is there a different album I should try?

I'm with you, actually.

I could never get into GnR.

Listen to the self-titled 'Moby' and Everything is Wrong. I agree that Hotel is a sh*t album but he really does have some great tunes.
On the plus side the little hat they put on Slash's skull makes me laugh.

Gave a few tracks a listen tonight and I'm not so sure AFD holds up as well as I thought it would have.

I just gave a few of the tracks a listen as well and I think I was probably a bit harsh, I forgot how much I liked the riffs in Welcome to the Jungle and Paradise City.

Listen to a bunch of the most popular mainstream rock albums from 1987.

Then go listen to Appetite For Destruction, and you'll see why.

Compelling argument, then again you could probably listen to the Hard Rock albums being shelled out now and it'd have the same effect.

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Perhaps the most boring Incubus album ever released. Earth to Bella has got to be the weakest Incubus track I've heard to date.

wait, are you telling me there was an interesting album they released? when did this happen?

Yeah, the Enjoy Incubus EP. And that's just about it... I have however heard most of their albums and Light Grenades bores me even to their standards.

I'm a hardcore Incubus fan and I just didn't like it, I can't think of many Incubus fans who think highly of it. It's easly their worst album.

A good EP, but IMO Science, Make Yourself and Morning View is just as good or better.

Morning View was just to slow for me. I do however think of S.C.I.E.N.C.E as a pretty underrated album.

I love Morning View even though the older fans like to call it the low point. It's certainly better than Make Yourself, and IMO it's on par with Science even if stylistically it's a very different album.

I think Science is underrated overall, but it's rated very highly among Incubus fans, and among the older fans, I don't think they give Morning View enough credit, though I understand the reason they dislike it is because it marks a major departure from their original style.

But just about every album marks a significant change in one way or another. I certainly don't like the direction they've taken with Light Grenades.

I just wish they had stuck with the really funky tunes they started out with. I understand that it's good for a group to evolve but I'm just not the biggest fan of what they've turned into. They are still miles above the murk of the modern Alt. Rock genre though.

man, idk about you guys, but i could never get into Incubus. never really wowed me tbh. but yeah what should i check out to really get them?

Without a f*cking doubt.

I know they're not for every taste.

But they take an unfair beating as it is, I don't know why they get all the hate for being a "mainstream radio" band when they're pretty much the only one right now that doesn't make me want to kill myself.

They're the only thing I can even still listen to on modern rock radio.

Am I the only one who likes A Crow Left of Murder?

no

I quite liked it actually. Once again they were trying to do something different, and why I can't say I like all the changes. I do miss Dirk Lance, he was a much better bass player than the guy they have now, and DJ Killmore doesn't really seem to do anything anymore, that and Southern Girl just might be their most cringeworthy song.

But overall I like it, Boyd is a great singer and Einziger is a damn good guitarist, they seem to be having a bit more fun here and are not as subdued as they were on the past two albums.

I mean every album they've done has been radically different from the last, and I think for the most part they have pulled those changes off, and for a band to be able to do that and still maintain commercial success and a loyal fanbase is certainly impressive. So yeah, it really pisses me off when people just write them off as some crappy unoriginal nu metal band while Radiohead get all the praise for changing it up every album.