It's all downhill from here... I'm going to agree with whoever - the rock band format is going nowhere revelatory, stylistically. Still, there'll doubtlessly be interesting style combinations and plenty of pleasing chord progressions to keep me listening to that side of Western music.

Any creation has to be derived from something, otherwise you, rock fan, could claim that there was nothing original before the Beatles, or whatever.
Please.
Music doesn't just appear out of thin air, that would be ***magic***.

The last piece of music I heard that recalled nothing else was Skream's 'Midnight Request Line' a couple of years ago. Even this music from another planet turned out to be an amalgam of UK underground influences from the previous decade.

Depsite the moaning of 'what about the harmonics, meters etc' I feel that the seemingly endless parameters of digital production will offer up the coveted 'new sounds' of the future, whether you like it or not.

Like the last Panda Bear album? Try and make that work with live musicians!

or you might just draw greater influence from free jazz than punk rock.

That's kind of showing a lack of imagination on your part rather than a failure of the world to invent something to excite you.

Electronic music and manipulation is not a bad thing. But it is not the ultimate new frontier in music. Flourescent light is cheaper but bothers the eyes. The same way computer monitors bother eyes the way paper does not. Sometimes messing with different parameters that have been staples through centuries isn't innovative just excessive.

New and exciting music will always stream forth. New players will come on the scene that will see and arrange things in an entirely new way. Yoyo ma is one of the most innovative musicians on the planet - bar none. Look at the ancient instrument he plays.

Music is more than adjusting parameters. It is emotion and communication on the most basic level. Acoustic or electronic instruments can produce these effects depending on what the artist is trying to convey. But to claim that only innovation can come from a manipulation from a single parameter of music among an entire array is very close minded and ignores the entire history of music. Four strings on wood continues to find new outlets and massive originality thousands of years after it is invented.

It is never the short coming of the instrument but the person using it.

Hey no-ones denying the power of music that hasn't been sequenced, sampled and fed through some a nasty machine - and I'm only talking about musical modes that exist within acoustic/amplified music here. I'm more than happy to be proven wrong in 2008, but I'm not gonna hold my breath... :/

You are being foolish.

Question: have you listened at all to the Animal Collective? I guarantee that what they do is considerably more innovative, original and wholly other than pretty much everything in EDM.

^ do you mean IDM? That term's 10 years out of date anyway

Electronic Dance Music. The term is very much still in use. What are you referring to?

EDM = Electronic Dance Music
IDM = Intelligent Dance Music

win



and yes, to whoever asked: I have every LP Animal Collective has ever released. they were certainly innovative when they first developed their guitar-walls-plus-synth-pads-plus-distorted-vocals style, but by now they are not innovative. tons of other bands now play in this style.

and to GoodTimes, I'm not even bothering to read your "posts" anymore.

'Intelligent dance music', detestable term, refers to the whole mid-90's breakbeat/experimental thing...
EDM is a new one on me, I like it though!

Back to your point, I wasn't trying to say that the future is in 'EDM' specifically, but with the ever-increasing possibilities of digital production there has always been fertile ground for genuinely new and innovative sounds/styles (the aforementioned dubstep scene and Panda Bear's album)...

I know sweet F.A. about digital studio production, I've seen some cheap programs at work but it seems like you need an MSc just to work the bloody things, but it's a much more democratic means of making music. Middle-class kids like the Beatles and the Stones could afford electric guitars (which weren't cheap at the turn of the 50's) but now any two bit child prodigy can get started with Fruityloops on his family computer and move up from there