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sweet_nothing 10-24-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 535276)
Why would an english band base an album off an american election?


Interest in politics

sleepy jack 10-24-2008 11:09 PM

Thom Yorke said himself the album wasn't intentionally political and the dark sound to it was just as much fueled by the Dark Ages and 1984 as the post-9/11 environment of the western world. So in his own words regarding the album as a political statement is "shallow."

dac 10-25-2008 02:19 AM

Political is a loose term. People called "American Idiot" political. The album is political in that a lot of the songs criticize society (2+2=5, Wolf at the Door, The Gloaming) and the direction it is headed. I didn't say it was a political statement; don't put words in my mouth.

And also, what genre does Radiohead belong to sir? I'm curious.

sleepy jack 10-25-2008 02:54 PM

Alternative Rock/Electronic

And Hail to the Thief having political undertones doesn't mean it's a groundbreaking album. This is why people hate Radiohead fans, they insist of giving them credit for things that aren't even original. In the early 2000s being political in music was even the status quo. If anything they were trend hopping with Hail to the Thief.

debaserr 10-25-2008 03:52 PM

who the hell cares about all of this. they make good music.
period

dac 10-25-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 535481)
Alternative Rock/Electronic

And Hail to the Thief having political undertones doesn't mean it's a groundbreaking album. This is why people hate Radiohead fans, they insist of giving them credit for things that aren't even original. In the early 2000s being political in music was even the status quo. If anything they were trend hopping with Hail to the Thief.

Who called it ground breaking? We just said it's a great album, nothing about it being ground breaking.

sleepy jack 10-25-2008 06:05 PM

Sorry next time instead of saying groundbreaking I'll use the words "genreless" and "original."

Rainard Jalen 10-26-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dac
How little have you gathered? Radiohead has one of the most diverse resumes in music. How many other successful bands can include songs as diverse as Paranoid Android, Idioteque, How To Disappear Completely, Like Spinning Plates, Life in a Glass House, Wolf at the Door, and Reckoner all on the SAME resume?

It wouldn't be particularly hard to come up with a whole myriad of bands more diverse and experimental than Radiohead! Oh, except for the point that you included the word "successful" in there. Well, it may be true that Radiohead are more successful than the sorts of bands that might be cited as examples of the "real deal" in terms of diversity and experimentation, but let's step back a second and ask ourselves why. So, what IS the secret to Radiohead's success? That they are such a "diverse" and deviously "experimental" outfit? Tosh! It has nothing to do with the direction they took after 1999, and everything to do with what happened beforehand. The secret to Radiohead's success, if indeed it can be called a secret at all, is the point that originally they were a perfectly commercial ALTERNATIVE ROCK BAND. They had massive airplay on mainstream pop/rock radio stations, and OK Computer was a huge success (mostly owed to Karma Police, Paranoid Android, and No Surprises). Had Radiohead not enjoyed their 1990s commercial successes and started out anew, without any fans, in 2000, then let me tell you this much buddy, Kid A woulda been NOTHING. It would have completely slipped under the radar. No 10/10s from Pitchfork, and not much of nothing else; a few critical nods here and there, but widespread popularity and attention? HELL NO. Same goes for everything that came after Kid A. It woulda been SMALL-TIME indie music enjoyed by only a niche minority. Hell, Kid A wasn't even THAT much of a critical success. A few glowing reviews, a fair number of lukewarm ones, and but the majority were sorta 4/5 star nods. People refer back to it as if it was the most critically acclaimed album of all time. It wasn't. It was less well received than at least 30 albums that have come out every year since.

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Originally Posted by dac
No one goes around praising Radiohead as a "new genre of music." They don't belong to any genres. HTTT was a very political album, something they didn't really do before that. Also, isn't your name derived from Radiohead?

Nobody falls completely outside of genre. Even bands who play around with a lot of different genres generally tend to fall more within one than another. And even if they didn't, you still wouldn't call them genreless. You'd just say that they frequently cross over from one genre to another, and say what those genres are. There is no song by Radiohead that could not be broadly inserted into a genre category.

dac 10-26-2008 12:19 AM

Dude, chill out. The only thing we said was that Radiohead has a diverse selection of genre's in which they make music. To try to classify them in any one genre would be incorrect. Therefore they do not belong to any one genre. No one said anything about originality, and you obviously have something against Radiohead fans. Peace.

EDIT: That was in response to sleepy jack

15Steps 10-26-2008 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 535481)
Alternative Rock/Electronic

art rock id say.


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