Best Artist: Round 2: Poll N (dance, pop, single, beatles)

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 05-12-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

Whoever doesn't or didn't vote The Beatles needs to admit right now that they are the best up there.

hahahahah, fuck off.

explosions in the sky

Seltzer · 05-13-2008, 12:00 AM

The Beatles are easily going through, so I vote for the Smiths.

It's ridiculous to argue about who is 'better'. And being able to master some Beatles songs but no Smiths songs on guitar doesn't make one band superior to the other. Neither are trying to wow anyone with technicality.

Personally, I think the songwriting in both bands is great, but the Beatles had a more varied discography and better songwriting IMO. However, I prefer the vocal/lyrical combination of the Smiths - Morrissey is possibly my favourite vocalist/lyricist ever.

sweet_nothing · 05-13-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

However, I prefer the vocal/lyrical combination of the Smiths - Morrissey is possibly my favourite vocalist/lyricist ever.

Same here, except I like John Lennon's voice but i hate his lyrics. And Morrissey's voice and lyrics are just something else.

boo boo · 05-13-2008, 01:00 AM

I never understood what makes Morrissey such an incredible lyricist. I mean when people put him on par with guys like Lennon, Dylan, Cohen, Young and Waters it just disgusts me.

I agree that his vocals certainly got better, I like his vocals on Headmaster Ritual and Barbarism Begins at Home. A lot of the vocals from The Queen is Dead sound grating to me, and for a Rush fan thats some kinda achievement. Morrissey is at his best when he cuts back on the whining and crooning and does a little more singing, wish he would do that more often, theres nothing wrong with his voice, its just the way he sings sometimes that bugs me.

The best apects of The Smiths will always be Johnny Marrs excellent guitar playing (though not even he can redeem Modest Mouse for me) and Rourke and Joyce who make a solid rhythm section.

sleepy jack · 05-13-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I never understood what makes Morrissey such an incredible lyricist. I mean when people put him on par with guys like Lennon, Dylan, Cohen, Young and Waters it just disgusts me.

Probably because he writes really good lyrics.

Seltzer · 05-13-2008, 01:30 AM

I can understand how people might complain that Morrissey sounds somewhat poncy/flamboyant, but to me, that is part of his attraction. In my mind, one of his best parts is his vocal delivery - not the lyrics alone, not the vocals alone, but more the holistic combination of the two. His lyrics complement his vocals and mesh with their music quite well in general.

His lyrics might not necessarily be confoundingly cryptic or packed with gigantic extended metaphors, but I find them quite good. Morrissey has a certain eloquence about him - as an example of this I'd choose a song like Meat Is Murder. I know you don't agree with the lyrics (elucidate further on that please), but I don't think it's humanly (or humanely

) possible to write a better anti-meat eating song - Morrissey makes the song very powerful.

As another example, I'd choose the "If you're so funny, then why are you on your own tonight?..." verse from I Know It's Over. That's not particularly complex, but there's something there in Morrissey's delivery which is just so honest and frank sounding. And you have to love his vocal performance in the Boy With the Thorn in His Side.

Beyond this, I can only post Smiths lyrics and explain why I think they're good, but I'm not going to do that.

Zer0 · 05-13-2008, 02:45 AM

Oooh some tough choices in this poll. They're all kick ass artists but voted for The Smiths in the end.

Demonoid · 05-13-2008, 07:12 AM

wow tough choices.
Bob Dylan imo.
I just Luuub the folk aspect of his music.

Kinda unfair though...Explosions in the sky/Alice in chains just got caught in the middle of this.

simplephysics · 05-13-2008, 07:40 AM

This is effing HARD.
The Beatles, very closely followed by Bob Dylan.

Mr Sensitive · 05-13-2008, 07:48 AM

I vote for the Smiths, I enjoy them more. Plus Paul McCartney isn't in the Smiths.

View Poll Results: Pick a band
Alice in Chains	4	9.52%
Beatles, The	13	30.95%
Bob Dylan	14	33.33%
Explosions in the Sky	1	2.38%
The Smiths	10	23.81%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

05-13-2008, 12:00 AM	#52 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	The Beatles are easily going through, so I vote for the Smiths. It's ridiculous to argue about who is 'better'. And being able to master some Beatles songs but no Smiths songs on guitar doesn't make one band superior to the other. Neither are trying to wow anyone with technicality. Personally, I think the songwriting in both bands is great, but the Beatles had a more varied discography and better songwriting IMO. However, I prefer the vocal/lyrical combination of the Smiths - Morrissey is possibly my favourite vocalist/lyricist ever. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

05-13-2008, 01:30 AM	#56 (permalink)
Seltzer Fish in the percolator! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hobbit Land NZ Posts: 2,870	I can understand how people might complain that Morrissey sounds somewhat poncy/flamboyant, but to me, that is part of his attraction. In my mind, one of his best parts is his vocal delivery - not the lyrics alone, not the vocals alone, but more the holistic combination of the two. His lyrics complement his vocals and mesh with their music quite well in general. His lyrics might not necessarily be confoundingly cryptic or packed with gigantic extended metaphors, but I find them quite good. Morrissey has a certain eloquence about him - as an example of this I'd choose a song like Meat Is Murder. I know you don't agree with the lyrics (elucidate further on that please), but I don't think it's humanly (or humanely ) possible to write a better anti-meat eating song - Morrissey makes the song very powerful. As another example, I'd choose the "If you're so funny, then why are you on your own tonight?..." verse from I Know It's Over. That's not particularly complex, but there's something there in Morrissey's delivery which is just so honest and frank sounding. And you have to love his vocal performance in the Boy With the Thorn in His Side. Beyond this, I can only post Smiths lyrics and explain why I think they're good, but I'm not going to do that. __________________ In the Court of King Crimson \| Last.fm \| RYM

05-13-2008, 02:45 AM	#57 (permalink)
Zer0 ∞ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,792	Oooh some tough choices in this poll. They're all kick ass artists but voted for The Smiths in the end. __________________ Last FM \| RYM \| The Final Sound

05-13-2008, 07:48 AM	#60 (permalink)
Mr Sensitive Hyperkinetic Rabbitything Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Noodle Mines Posts: 811	I vote for the Smiths, I enjoy them more. Plus Paul McCartney isn't in the Smiths. __________________

05-13-2008, 07:12 AM	#58 (permalink)
Demonoid Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 734	wow tough choices. Bob Dylan imo. I just Luuub the folk aspect of his music. Kinda unfair though...Explosions in the sky/Alice in chains just got caught in the middle of this.