Pitchfork

**Janszoon** · 12-18-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I'd just like to note that I'm really starting to mind their (to me at least) forced inclusion of rap/hip hop. I'm thinking people who follow that magazine are primarily interested in indie rock, and people who listen and care about hip hop sure as fuck don't read them. Not sure what they're thinking, trying to prove that their tastes surpass indie or they're trying to cater to American mainstream...but it's kinda annoying.

I don't think they're trying to prove anything. A lot of indie fans are also into hip-hop so it just kind of makes sense to include it in with indie reviews.

Schizotypic · 12-18-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard

Go.

They try to apply to sides of the popular scented mass sheepacy, and the mispoken up north haggles with the side of brunt hipocracy. So pick an alternative to alternative to bite down on and you realize you become different from listening to **** everyone knows about but never understand completely.

This. It's a conspiracy maaaaan, it's mainstream music's back-up plan to catch the kids who want to actually explore and be different. Punk, Reggae, rap, hip-hop- it's all been eaten by the opiate culture, by which I mean they have been dumbed down, striped of meaning, and made popular. I don't really think it's a conspiracy, maybe were just sick of conflict. =/ I sure would rather listen to Lady GaGa, myself, then some political song, maybe if it was a really good quality political song...

bubblenoise · 12-18-2009, 02:01 PM

yes, but all those sites just have regurgitated music lists. I swear, everything from Stereogum to SPIN.com, all the music sites basically listen to the same albums. I would love to see just one list that doesn't have Girls as one of their Top 10 albums, or that didn't list Animal Collective as number one. Not saying I'm not a fan, it would just be nice to see someone do something different.

TheBig3 · 12-18-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don't think they're trying to prove anything. A lot of indie fans are also into hip-hop so it just kind of makes sense to include it in with indie reviews.

yeah I'm not sure what he was getting at but rap has its own indie out there. If thats whats being included. Sites like pitchfork don't get by on music so much as they get by on counterculture.

sidewinder · 12-18-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bubblenoise

yes, but all those sites just have regurgitated music lists. I swear, everything from Stereogum to SPIN.com, all the music sites basically listen to the same albums. I would love to see just one list that doesn't have Girls as one of their Top 10 albums, or that didn't list Animal Collective as number one. Not saying I'm not a fan, it would just be nice to see someone do something different.

Boomkat - Our top 100 albums of 2009!
Ghostly's Favorite Albums of the Decade - Ghostly International Media

There is bound to be some common ground not only on sites that cater to the same crowds, but also clear winners across all genres. We don't have to like them all.

dac · 12-18-2009, 03:51 PM

I really don't see why people get worked up over an indie rock site... they're gonna make some questionable decisions. That's why they're popular, because they appeal to a certain crowd. Get used to it. It's the same reason why Alternative Press (the magazine) appeals to 14 year old scene kids. Not everyone can have the holy, infallible opinions that you do Norg. And if you ask me, Pitchfork gets it right a lot more often than any of the other popular media sources do.

music_phantom13 · 12-20-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder

Boomkat - Our top 100 albums of 2009!
Ghostly's Favorite Albums of the Decade - Ghostly International Media

There is bound to be some common ground not only on sites that cater to the same crowds, but also clear winners across all genres. We don't have to like them all.

Thanks for reminding Ghostly did a Top 100. I'd say theirs is (imo) the best list from any media site I've seen yet. The label has some fantastic releases by the way, they should have just given a big middle finger to modesty and put Alpinisms on their list

FaSho · 09-20-2010, 06:16 PM

The writers of Pitchfork or so clever and knowledgeable that I have no idea why someone wouldn't consult them to influence their opinions on music.

Perfect example:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/4338-get-born/
Pitchfork: Album Reviews: Jet: Shine On

gunnels · 09-20-2010, 06:23 PM

FaSho · 09-20-2010, 06:26 PM

Pitchfork: Album Reviews: Audioslave: Out of Exile

Such truth.

12-18-2009, 03:51 PM	#126 (permalink)
dac MB's Biggest Fanboy Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Posts: 2,852	I really don't see why people get worked up over an indie rock site... they're gonna make some questionable decisions. That's why they're popular, because they appeal to a certain crowd. Get used to it. It's the same reason why Alternative Press (the magazine) appeals to 14 year old scene kids. Not everyone can have the holy, infallible opinions that you do Norg. And if you ask me, Pitchfork gets it right a lot more often than any of the other popular media sources do. __________________

12-18-2009, 02:01 PM	#123 (permalink)
bubblenoise Groupie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 18	yes, but all those sites just have regurgitated music lists. I swear, everything from Stereogum to SPIN.com, all the music sites basically listen to the same albums. I would love to see just one list that doesn't have Girls as one of their Top 10 albums, or that didn't list Animal Collective as number one. Not saying I'm not a fan, it would just be nice to see someone do something different.